INTERVIEW BY MARKO SYRJÄLÄ
L.A. Guns are an American hard rock band from Los Angeles, California, originally formed in 1983 by Tracii Guns and Rob Gardner. After several changes, the band’s “classic lineup” of Guns, vocalist Phil Lewis, bassist Kelly Nickels, guitarist Mick Cripps, and Steve Riley got together in 1987. They achieved moderate chart success in the late 1980s and early 1990s. However, the group went through numerous lineup changes (with Riley being the most consistent member). The band name is owned in half (50/50) by Riley and Guns, and between 2006-2012 there were two versions of LA Guns under the same name. The other was run by Riley and Lewis, whereas Guns led his versions of the band. In early 2017 Lewis announced that he was leaving Riley’s version to join forces again with Guns. Their version of the band has released two studio albums after that. But nothing ain’t over until it’s over. In December of 2018, Riley announced that his new incarnation of L.A. Guns would resurface, and the band lineup also includes another “classic era” member, Kelly Nickels. The lineup is completed with onetime L.A. Guns member Scotty Griffin and vocalist/guitarist Kurt Frohlich. The band released its first single, “Crawl,” in April of 2020, and the full album RENEGADES saw the light of day last November. Because the world now has once again two active versions of L.A. Guns, it was time to pick up the phone, ask Riley what’s going on and how things have developed since his band announcement.
BACK IN THE SADDLE
Before we start discussing the new RENEGADES album, let’s go back a bit in time. In December of 2018, it was announced that you would activate your version of L.A.Guns and that the band would perform at the M3 festivals on following summer. What made you decide to return to the music scene and form your version of the band. There were rumors that you had given up music after Phil Lewis left L.A. Guns in early 2017 and joined Tracii Guns’s version of the band.
You know what? I got to tell you I never really considered stopping. What happened was I’m the one guy in L.A. Guns that kept going through the whole thing. I was the one guy that never quit the band, and all of the other classic members had left the band at one time or another. So when I was on tour with Phil in 2016, after 15 years of Phil and me doing it alone, he decided to do some shows with Tracii, and I never wavered. I knew that I was just going to keep pushing forward with L.A. Guns because they were going to do shows as Tracii and Phil, not as L.A. Guns. So I contacted Kelly Nickels immediately, and I asked Kelly if he was ready to come back because he had taken a lot of time off, and Kelly was so into it. So, right away, Kelly and I started writing material and planning how we would do this, and we were fortunate. We found Scott Griffin to play lead guitar and Kurt Frohlich to sing lead vocals, and we didn’t have to audition anybody. We found them right away, so we were very, very lucky, and we got offers to do live shows. Golden Robot Records came right on board. New Breed Management came on board, and they actually got us the Golden Robot records deal, and we built a machine around us, and we just plowed forward. We didn’t really hesitate. And I think it might be a mistake that people think that I decided not to play music. It was really because I had to retool the band, and I knew I was going to keep going forward. Still, I had to step back and just make sure that Kelly was on board and Scott and Kurt were on board, and so that took a little bit of time, and I think people might have misunderstood that I was going to stop playing music, but that was never really the case.
So, you just needed the time to put the pieces together, and in fact, you never went away.
Yeah. That’s the truth because what I had to do was when Phil decided to leave and do shows with Tracii, I had to, as I said, retool and get things together again and figure out who’s going to manage us, who is going to do the record label, and everything fell into place pretty quickly. But we had to take time to do that, and I think people misunderstood and thought that I would retire, which was never the case. I never really stopped at that point. I just kept pushing forward.
When the announcement was made, it was a bit unclear who would be in the band. Kelly was announced first, but then there were a lot of rumors around. One of the rumors said that you originally had plans to get Jacob Bunton (Adler, Mick Mars band) to sing on this band. Whatever happened to him?
Do you want to know what happened with Jacob? He’s a really nice guy. I just spoke with him on the phone, and I asked him if he wanted to do the M3 show with us, just one show, and come in and have with us, and he was in a couple of cover bands that had done some L.A. Guns songs. And I saw him on YouTube, and I called him up, and we really hit it off on the phone. And I asked him if he wanted to do the show. He said yes. So we never really got to play together because Jacob called me a week or two later and said that it would conflict with what he was doing on his own end. So I never really got to play with Jacob Bunton, but we hit it off the phone. We decided we were going to play together, but it never came together. So we never really got into a studio to play together. But I think he’s a great guy and a really good singer. But right after Jacob said that it would conflict with what he was going to do, then right then somebody told me, “Check out this Kurt Frohlich guy.” And he is a great musician. There are so many in the world that slipped through the cracks. He never really got a good chance to do something. And we were ready to audition a lot of singers, and we didn’t have to do that because as soon as I saw Kurt on YouTube, I called him up and said, “You can do this,” and he came out to L.A. He sat down with Kelly and me and Scott, and he not only sang the back catalog great because he’s a big L.A. Guns fan, but he had a bunch of material too that he had written himself. So the Jacob thing was only a two-week thing of us talking on the phone, and we never really got to play together. Yeah, we never got to play together. It’s so funny. I was disappointed, but I understood, and I told him, “Best of luck with what you’re doing.” And really, it was like a two-week thing on the telephone, and that was it. It was unbelievable. It was so fast.
Kurt is an excellent choice for the band because he’s not a Phil Lewis clone. I remember the time when he was briefly fronting Faster Pussycat in 2007 or something. At the time, there were two versions of that band touring as well. So, he surely knows how it is to join a long-term band and be compared to somebody else all the time. I think he’s keeping that thing really calm absolutely, and it’s a good thing.
It’s so true. I know so many musicians, from playing for so long, that slip through the cracks. And for one reason or another, they can’t get something going. But they’re very talented musicians. They’re all over the world. And for some reason or another, they can’t get the record deal, or they can’t land in a band. So Kurt was one of those guys. He was one of those great songwriters, great singers, and he plays guitar really well. And he just couldn’t for some reason get his original bands going, or he was in a lot of cover bands just to make some money and to play. And he was one of those guys that were just floating out there. And somebody from Las Vegas, a friend of mine, called and said, “You must check out this guy, Kurt Frohlich.” And I went on the Internet. I saw him do a couple of Bowie songs and a couple of his original songs. And I was like, “Wow, this guy is great.” And so I called him up, and he was ready to do something like this. And he is just a great songwriter, too, so we got the whole package with him.
Then we have the returning Scotty Griffin on guitar. I liked the lineup he was a part of earlier. The HOLLYWOOD FOREVER was a strong effort from the band, and Scotty also did a lot of writing for that album. And now he’s having even a more significant role in the band.
Absolutely. And the thing about Scott Griffin is that he is a lead guitar player that decided to play bass with us because he didn’t have a gig. So when we asked him, “Would you like to come on [a?] tour with us and play bass?” he’s a multi-instrumentalist. He can play bass, guitar, keyboards, writes, and just sings a great second vocal. And so, for about eight years, he played bass in L.A. Guns, but he is really a lead guitarist. So when this happened with Kelly Nickels, obviously, Scotty thought he was out of a gig because he had been playing bass with us. And I called him up in Vegas, and I told him, “Scotty, you got to play lead guitar with us.” And he was just so stoked about that. And he plays great guitar.
So because you are a drummer, I have to ask; is Scotty a better bassist or a guitar player?
Oh, he’s a way better guitar player because that’s his original instrument. And I knew that because he would pick up the guitar in the studio and play when we went in to record. And I was like, “Wow, this guy’s really, really good on guitar.” And so when Kelly came back, I knew Scotty was maybe a perfect fit because he toured with me, and he’s a great guy and great musician. But I knew he could play lead guitar from recording with him before. And he was just; he was taken aback. He didn’t realize I was calling him not to tell him that he’s not in the band because of Kelly’s playing bass again, but I told him, “We want you to play guitar.” And he was just so stoked about that. And I think that he stepped up to the plate. And Scotty played magnificently on the RENEGADES album. And he brought in some great material. And he’s just got some– he’s just a great musician, a great guy all around.
As you have mentioned a couple of times already, getting Kelly Nickels in the band was important. He played on one track, “Venus Bomb,” on HOLLYWOOD FOREVER (2012). Besides that, he was entirely out of the scene since early 2000. So, after all these years, how difficult it was to get him back in the ring?
Well, as you said, when we were in 2012, we were into the studio with Andy Johns, and we were recording the HOLLYWOOD FOREVER album. And Phil and I, we called Kelly up in New York, and we said, “Do you want to come out to L.A. and play on one of the songs and just have fun? Come out and play on one of the songs.” We flew him out to L.A., and this is in 2012. He decided he wanted to come back to the band, and I was all for it, and Phil was not into it. And it was a shame because Kelly would have been back in the band in 2012, and he wanted it to happen. And so, when it didn’t happen, we moved on. I was kind of disappointed, but I moved on, and Kelly was in touch with me through that. We stayed best friends hoping even when he was out of music to stay best friends. And so when Phil decided to leave me and play these shows with Tracii, that’s when Kelly and I hooked up on the phone. I said, “Kelly, let’s do this.” And he said, “I’m so ready.” And that’s when we jumped back in. And that was really in 2017. Then we started moving forward in 2018. But really, Kelly Nickels decided to come back to music way back in 2012. And I was so into it. Now that he’s with me, it’s so much fun because he’s my best player. He and I play almost all the classic materials together. He wrote “Ballad of Jane.” He’s a great songwriter. He’s a great artist. And he’s just one of my best friends. So when he and I got together, we knew that this was going to be something special because we immediately found that power needed for all of those old songs. And we just needed to top it off with some really good musicians like Scott Griffin and Kurt Frolich. And we were fortunate. And everything came together so easily in a very organic way. And I got to tell you, having Kelly back is a really special thing.
If I remember correctly, after Phil and Tracii decided to work together again, they also asked Kelly and Mick Cripps to join their version of the band?
They never really asked Kelly to join. What they did, they called Kelly up, and they said, “We’re writing a new album.” This is from Tracey. Phil called Kelly up. Kelly said, “Send me some of the songs and let me see what you’ve got going and maybe I could screw around with them.” When they sent the songs to Kelly, Kelly said, “I believe we could treat them much better than this.” That offended Phil so bad that he went on the Internet. And he really trashed Kelly badly. And Kelly couldn’t believe it. And that happened right at the time when Phil left the band with me. So Phil not only started trashing Kelly on the Internet, he started trashing both of us. And we just couldn’t understand it. We were so disappointed and so in going that route and talking trash above it. And we will never do that. You’ll never see me and Kelly go on the Internet and put other band members down. That’s just not us. We don’t go there. And we’re very disappointed in Phil doing that and even Tracii doing it. It’s just not a cool way. And I think the fans don’t like it either. They don’t like that trash talk when we get so much good work together to talk all trash shit about Kelly and me saying we can’t play our instruments, and we’re not worthy, and all of this stuff. And it was just a bad thing that they did. And like I said, you’ve never seen me and Kelly go on the Internet and trash talk anybody like that.
WORKING IN THE STUDIO
I find it interesting when you said that you immediately started working on new material with Kelly, and what makes it even more interesting is that Phil Lewis had previously said he quit your band because it was you who resisted writing and recording new music. That is a confusing comment.
That is such a false story because I’m kind of the guy that makes things happen in L.A. Guns. I’ve planned out all the albums, and I planned out all the tours. I’ve been running the business for L.A. Guns since I joined because I had a lot of experience, more than the other guys. So they made me in charge of putting all the stuff together and running the business. So when we did HOLLYWOOD FOREVER, we went out on tour, and I was ready to do another album. It was, really, Phil that didn’t want to record. So when I read that, he said that “Steve didn’t want to record, and that was the reason he left,” which was totally false. And when I read it, I was just like, “Wow, what are you talking about?” Because I was always planning new albums. I mean, I put all of the albums together from the producers and the studios. And so, I was always ready to record again. So Phil said that was totally false because you could see that I went back into the studio as soon as he left. It was something that I knew we wanted to do, and I wanted to do new material. So when I read that, I was just like, “I don’t know what he’s talking about, and it was totally false.
When Lewis said that statement, I found it a little strange because you must have spent like half of your life in the studio?
Absolutely. There’s no doubt about it. And I always know that it’s great for the band’s soul. We know that there’s not a lot of record stores, there’s not a lot of radio, there’s not a lot of MTV for us. But I think it’s always important to keep recording new music just for your soul and let people know that you’re creating new music. And it’s very important. Even a band like L.A. Guns could sit back and play the old catalog live all the time. I just thought that recording was something that we needed to do. It’s something that’s going to make us feel creative. It’s going to make us feel fresh. And even if you don’t do a lot of album tracks live like in the old days, it’s still for you to go in and record and create new music and maybe put one, two, or three of the new songs in the set. So that was my whole motto, all the time, to record. And again, going back to Phil saying I didn’t want to record, it’s just not in me like that. I know that we need to record all the time. And I was pushing it when we had Michael Grant and Kenny Kweens in the band. They had brought some new material in, and I would listen to it. And I told Phil, “Let’s do some new stuff, and I could set up a new album for us.” And Phil didn’t want to do it. So it was totally the opposite of what he said.
Let’s discuss next a bit about the album itself. RENEGADES came out last November, but the first single, “Crawl,” saw the light of the day already in April of 2020, followed by more singles before the full album release. I was surprised positively when I first heard “Crawl” because it sounded like L.A. Guns to me despite all the band changes. I think that’s what your goal was?
The first three singles that we released, “Crawl,” Well Oiled Machine,” and “Renegades,” are the three songs Kelly Nickels brought in. And we just happened to like them, and we finished them in the studio together. But those are the songs he brought in. And we decided that “Crawl” had such a great groove to it, and it had a great L.A. Guns feel to it. So we were really, really positive about “Crawl” being the first song out of RENEGADES. And I think it really set up the whole year. Our album ended up being one of the most streamed albums on Spotify, and he really, really did well. And I think it was because of the songwriting of the four guys, and Kelly brought in some great material, and so did Kurt and Scott. And I brought in “You Can’t Walk Away” and “Don’t Want To Know.” And I just thought that we had a great deal. And I thought we all felt like “Crawl” was the first song that should come out. And I think that it made people’s eyes open and said, “Wow, this is pretty good.”
You’re right, and there are a lot of great tracks on this record. I’m sure that this time the fans got what they were looking after. But it’s not always been like that. In the past, L.A. Guns has released a couple of albums that were something else that the fans excepted. Especially the AMERICAN HARDCORE album was one of those. It didn’t sound like L.A. Guns at all.
Absolutely. I totally agree. And I tell you what happened with that really quickly. That album was the first album that we did after Phil, Kelly, and Mick Cripps left the band. So me and Tracy we were partners. We were ready to move on, and we got the record deal to go into AMERICAN HARDCORE. And at that time, Tracy was so into the Pantera sound and that hard metal sound, and he wanted to take a complete left turn away from L.A. Guns. I wasn’t so sure about it. It was a fun album to record, but I knew it was going to confuse the band, the fans of L.A. Guns because it was so different sounding. And we had fun recording it. But it didn’t go overwhelming because we had already established a sound that the fans like. And to do something like AMERICAN HARDCORE, it’s a total departure from what we sound like. And you could see right after that, we went to record SHRINKING VIOLET with Jizzy Pearl, and then Phil came back in. And we went back to the L.A. Guns sound. But Tracy wanted to do something like that, a hard album, a really, really thrash metal album. And it was kind of a mistake. The fans really, really didn’t understand it. They knew we had a sound, and they were wondering why we were departing from our sound so much.
L.A. GUNS IN DOUBLE
However, the fact is that currently, there are two legal L.A. Guns versions both recording, and touring at the moment. People and the fans sure wonder what the difference between the two versions of the band is. So, what would you answer to that question?
The difference is that– you know what? It’s very, very subtle. There’s not a lot of difference because you’re talking about two original members in one and two original members in the other. All four of us, with Mick Cripps, we together wrote that building material. “Never Enough,” “Sex Action,” “Rip and Tear,” “The Ballad of Jayne,” we built all of that together. So we were all in the same mode of writing. So there are very subtle differences. I think one of the things is that you’re right. This has happened to other bands before, too. And we have tried to create something that stays true to L.A. Guns and has the same rhythm section, pushing it. A vocalist. It’s very, very close to the old-sounding vocalist. And Scottie has been with the band for so long that he knows the style of the band. So there are just very subtle differences. I think songwriting is the main thing. And I don’t know a lot about Phil and Tracy’s material. I can honestly tell you; I have not purposely stayed away from hearing it. I just haven’t heard a lot of their material. But I know that bands have written saying that they tried to depart a little bit from the L.A. Guns style of a lot of stuff. And that’s something that we didn’t want to do. So you know, I hope that people listen to RENEGADES. And they hear the L.A. Guns sound, and they hear the style of music. And it’s kind of an eclectic mix; we’ve always had that on all our albums. From the first album, all the way through. We mixed it up. We’ve kind of gone from “It’s Over Now” to a hard rock song, then back to something else. So we’ve always mixed it up. But I hope people listen to RENEGADES and hear the L.A. Guns’ style in there; they hear that familiar rhythm section pushing the material.
And I think that the difference is that there are two bands, that’s pretty much it. And they’re doing their thing. Kelly and I wish them the best and hope that they do well. I know that they don’t feel the same way about us [laughter]. But you know what? It’s something we’ve got to deal with. And it’s something that you have to have thick skin. And you have just to say, “This is something that’s there, we have to deal with it, we’re just going to stay true to L.A. Guns, and just try to hope that the fans like what we’re doing.” And the reviews of RENEGADES, the comments that I’ve read about it all over the Internet, it’s got so many spins on Spotify. I think that we accomplished it, and we did something that the fans liked. And our old fans like it too.
This is not the first time we are having two versions of L.A. Guns existing simultaneously. As mentioned before, we have seen many various incarnations of the band during the years, and some of the strangest versions were seen when Tracii was leading his version of L.A. Guns between 2006 to 2012. You and Phil had a stable band with Stacey Blades during that time, but Tracii had like a dozen different variations of his version of the band. That must have been a confusing time for the fans.
Well, that goes back to being– he had Dilana and Paul Black. He had Jizzy Pearl. He had a guy from American Idol singing. He strayed away too from the L.A. Guns sound. And that’s something that I never wanted to do. I knew we established a really good sound, a really good mix of material, and it’s something that I’ve always thought of for this. Stay true to L.A. Guns. I think Tracii drifted here and there. He wanted to make the AMERICAN HARDCORE album. He wanted to have a lead girl singer in the band. He got Paul Black in the band again. And it was just a mixture of sounds. Some of the albums that he did never really even came out. All’s I can say is that I just kept plowing forward and wanting to make sure that we were delivering elegant sound, whether it was Phil or whether it was Tracii or whether it was Kelly. I always really need to make sure that we’re staying true to the elegant sound, and I don’t know if that’s what Tracii did. I think that he drifted around and got different vocalists. He got that girl singer and said, “Finally, somebody who can sing the old material.” Well, what about Phil? I don’t understand a lot of stuff that comes out of his camp and how he feels about stuff, but I feel good about everything L.A. Guns has done. I feel good about everything that I’ve done with L.A. Guns. And even the AMERICAN HARDCORE album. It was a total departure, but it was fun. I felt good about it, and I knew that it was going to confuse the fans. But I felt good about everything that I’ve done with L.A. Guns. Yeah, and I was like– the one guy that was trying to help everybody out from not quitting, I would sit down with them and say, “We have such a good thing here with L.A. Guns. We have such a great fan base. This is a great thing that we have going right now. Don’t leave. You don’t have to quit. Even if we have to take a little bit of time off, you don’t need to leave the band and quit. And I would always sit down with them before they were going to leave and try to talk them out of not leaving. And it wasn’t always successful. And that’s why I’m one constant member of the band. I just feel good about L.A. Guns, and I think we have a good thing going here with our fan base and that Kelly and I will have a lot of fun with this. And we’re not going to get caught up in all that trash talk and that childish talk on the Internet. It just goes nowhere.
CLASSIC LINEUP TALK
Because I’m from Finland, I need to ask if you have any good memories from our country?
Yes, and, I mean, I’ve been over this so many times with W.A.S.P. and L.A. Guns, and it is such a great place to play. The rock fans up there are so cool, and the people are so cool, and it’s just when that ends up on our schedule to come up here to Finland. It’s just one of the great places to play because I had so many good shows with W.A.S.P. up there and so many good shows with L.A. Guns, and there are true rock fans up there. They understand and love rock music. And we plan on coming to Europe and Scandinavia. It’s on our plans, and it’s on our wish list, and we’ll see what happens. We’ve got a lot of U.S. dates booked, we’re going to go over to Australia and New Zealand, and on our wish list is for our agency to book Scandinavia so that we can play Finland, Sweden, and Denmark. And when we come to Finland, man, we have a blast; it’s just a great place to play.
In 2016, you mentioned in several interviews that at least some of the members had plans, or at least high hopes, that the classic lineup of W.A.S.P. would perform some selected shows again together. Is there any progress on that negotiation?
Yeah, you know what? I never say never to anything, and I never say never to the classic lineups getting back together. There was some talk of W.A.S.P. getting back together for the 30th anniversary – me, Chris Holmes, and Randy Piper and Blackie, but I don’t think Blackie wanted to do that. He’s the one that needs to be really into it. But if they wanted to do a short tour, the original guys, and go over to Europe and Scandinavia and some U.S. states, I would be totally down for that. I would make space in the L.A. Guns schedule and do that. And I never say never to anything because there’s just too many possibilities for stuff to happen that could be cool.
Life is too short, so it’s better to say “never say never.”
Definitely, I never say no to anything. And I never say never because I know in this business anything can happen. And right now, I’m having a blast doing it. So Kelly, Scot, Kurt, we plan to move forward and do more recordings and more live dates. But I just don’t know what is going to happen with classic lineups. If they decide to get together to do a few shows, I’m all for that. That’d be a lot of fun. And then come back and do this with Kelly and Scot and Kurt. But the thing is, is that I think Randy Piper and me, I’m totally into doing the 30th anniversary, but I don’t think Chris and Blackie would do it. [laughter] Yeah, I think that it would be great. Randy Piper, I’ve talked to him. I’ve stayed in touch with Randy and Chris up until he moved over to France. We stayed in touch too. And I saw Blackie, too, on some tours that we did. L.A. Guns and W.A.S.P. did a tour together over here. I believe it was in 2010. And I love all those guys. I love all the guys I’ve played with. I played with Keel and W.A.S.P. and the old classic members of L.A. Guns. I still really love all those guys, and I have nothing bad to say about them.
When you mentioned what might happen with the classic lineups, does that also mean that you and Kelly would be willing to play a gig or two with your former L.A. Guns colleagues sometime in the future?
Like I told you, I never say never, but from what I read that they say about Kelly and me, I don’t know if that’s in their plans. And like I said, if the original lineup decided to get back together and all five of us were into it to do a short tour or some kind of a small recording thing, I would totally be into it because I don’t have the problem with them that they have with us. So from reading what they say on the Internet and putting us down, I don’t know if they would ever be into it. But like I said, like a broken record, I never say never to anything. If something came up and everybody was into it, I would be into it. It’s a moving system that you never know what’s going to happen. And all you could do is put your nose to the ground and go in and record some good material, go out on to some live shows, and have fun with this thing. And I don’t know if a lot of people have fun with it after a while, but I still have a lot of fun with this. And I’m having a ball doing this Renegades album with these three guys, Kurt, Scot, and Kelly. And I think we just really meld together well. So we’re going to have fun with this and keep recording and keep playing live. And hopefully, we get to come over to Scandinavia and show you how good we are.
Because of the ongoing pandemic, L.A. Guns has experienced the same thing as all the other bands, and you had to cancel most of the shows in 2020. How does the future look in terms of touring, and what kind of plans does the band have for 2021?
Yeah, we had a full– like every other band, we had a full slate of live shows for 2020. And we were so lucky to get the album done in 2019 at the end, and we got to work it through this pandemic last year. And all of our shows from 2020 got pushed into 2021. So we have a full play to festivals, casinos, fairs, all kinds of– maybe a couple of club dates. We don’t plan on doing the 200 club dates that we were doing; it’s too difficult. So we’re going to do all festivals, fairs, and casinos, and we have a whole slate of gigs lined up for this year. We’re hoping that they come off. We’ll see how this vaccine goes, but we’ve already started working on the second album, exchanging materials, and so on. We’ve already begun to exchange material, and we hope to go in maybe at the mid-part of this year, perhaps at the end of May, or maybe in June and start recording a second album in between gigs that we have booked, but we’ve got our fingers crossed that everything goes well.
Yeah, at the moment, nobody knows for sure what the future holds.
Nobody knows anything right now. But we will be doing another album, and we will keep going in the recording process; if anybody wants to find out anything about Kelly Nickels, Steve Riley, Scott, and Kurt, they go to laguns.net. All of our tour dates are up there. You can order the album; it’s coming– all kinds of different colors, and the black vinyl comes out tomorrow so that they can find out a lot of stuff. And then there’s a lot of fun stuff up there with videos and merchandise. Look, go to laguns.net if you want to find out anything Steve Riley, Kelly and Scott, and Kurt, and we try to inform the fans about exactly what we’re doing, so that’s the place to go.
Our time is up now. Thank you for this interview, and best of luck with L.A. Guns in the future.
Thank you, Marko. You’re a good guy.