17th of February 2005 in Stockholm, Sweden.
Interview and pictures by Marko Syrjala
Like everyone else in Adler’s Appetite, Robbie Crane is one of the coolest guys you’d ever hope to meet, especially in the world of rock music. We sat with the bass player for the better part of an hour and discussed his newest band, Adler’s Appetite, his ongoing involvement with Ratt, as well as his times with Vince Neil. Read on for tales of friends and foes and everything in between…
Metal Rules: Tell me, how did the whole Adler’s Appetite project get started, and how did you get involved with it?
Robbie Crane: For me it started, in think, it was in 2003, when Keri Kelli and I, you know we’ve played together in a lot of different bands and stuff, and Steven Adler’s buddy at the time, Ryan Johnson, who is best friends with Keri Kelli got together with Steven and decided to put a band together for Steven to go out and play his old GN’R catalog as well as maybe, you know, pursue some new music. He called Keri Kelli, and he called me, and we decided to work with Steven, and through me, we got Jizzy Pearl. He brought in Brent Muscat from Faster Pussycat, so it was just kind of word of mouth, you know, I’ve known Steven for twelve or fifteen years or something. I’ve known Keri for six or eight years, so we started as a band just by us knowing each other and getting into a room and playing together, so that took about a week after we got together, and we booked a bunch of gigs and started playing in 2003.
Metal Rules: Do you see this as a serious band or rather just a project?
Robbie Crane: Well, you know, we all are from different bands, although we’ve all had our collective things that we’ve done, I think that this is a band we kind of feel that is ours, you know what I mean, although we do play a lot of Guns n’ Roses music right now. We’ve recorded an EP, and we’ve also demoed and gotten together eighteen original songs, so we’re hoping to have an LP album out hopefully by summer, but yeah, I think this is becoming more of a band for all of us; you know what I mean, maybe not our primary band right now, but it’s getting there, I mean Jizzy and I still have Ratt and Brent plays in Faster Pussycat. Keri still does shows with Vince Neil and stuff, so it’s tough because, you know, while we’re able to have this band be one of our primary bands, we all other things we do as well. It’s becoming our main focus, yes.
Metal Rules: What happened to Brent? Why is he not with you on this tour?
Robbie Crane: Well, during the recording process, some issues came up, that in my opinion, in the big picture, in hindsight, weren’t valid reasons not to involve him in the recording process, at least the EP part of it. So, he’s coming back. We parted ways for a little while, on good terms. Brent, he’s a great guy, and he’s a part of this, and he was there from the beginning like all of us. Unfortunately, we didn’t have him for this trip, which I feel miserable again. He’s going to come back in about two weeks from now, so we’ll hopefully have him involved in the actual LP, the CD that we do.
Metal Rules: The record, who will release it, and what kind of stuff will be on it, any of the EP’s songs, or just all new stuff?
Robbie Crane: We have four originals on the EP itself. There are six actual songs on the EP. Two are covers; one is ‘Hollywood,’ because we’ve done it live forever, and another one was going to be a Hanoi Rocks song, but we opted not to do that. Instead of adding the Hanoi Rocks song, we just did an Aerosmith song, ‘Draw the Line,’ which we’re happy with. Still, four of the EP songs are originals that we wrote out of the eighteen songs initially recorded, so we still have another fourteen songs that haven’t even seen the light of day yet, to put on anything. So, it’s going to be all originals, maybe one cover as most bands do anyways. Do we have a company to put it out? You know, we have offers from like three or four different record companies, and even to our EP, we had offers, and we were in a position, we thought, to record it on our own and not to have any label pressure. And to be realistic and honest, we knew we all came from different bands. We all wrote tons of music. Still, for us to sign a record contract in the States and be committed to that without really having a tremendous amount of songs or something that we’ve recorded or put out as a band to see if we even gelled together, we thought would be kind of stupid. You know, what if we got together in a studio, which in reality is what probably would have happened, and we couldn’t write anything? So we thought we would give it a test for ourselves and do the EP on our own. As far as the label goes, we haven’t really decided yet who we’re going to go with.
Metal Rules: How many copies of the EP did you initially produce?
Robbie Crane: The first run was 3000 and was sold out in less than a month, which is pretty quick. And then we just did another 3000, and we’re about halfway through those in orders. We could see ourselves going anywhere between 5000 and 10000 on the EP, but do we really want to sell that many? I don’t know. We did it, and we wanted to make it more of a collectible, limited edition kind of thing. And I think that an initial 5000 is a good amount, so we’ll probably end it at 5000 and go for an actual LP at that point.
Metal Rules: You mentioned some big companies having made your offer for the album. Can you be more specific about which ones those are?
Robbie Crane: Well, I don’t really consider them big. We’ve obviously had an offer from a company called Shrapnel Records. But right now, you can’t get the EP from stores, but only through our website and our shows, and we’ve sold them out at the shows. In a lot of ways, it’s weird, because you can look at it two ways, a financial way, business-wise it’s a really bad move for us only to do 3000 CDs, but as a band and looking at it from, in my opinion, the fans perspective, there are 3000 fans out there that got the first pressing. I think that it is kind of cool to own that, you know what I mean, to know, “Hey man, I got the first 3000.” That’s great for us. So financially, that’s one good thing about this band in particular, that we’re not hurting for money, we all have our own things that we’ve done in the past, we’re all financially in a good position, we don’t have to do anything for money. If we want to sign with a record company that we all agree we’re going to sign with, then we can sign with them, and if we don’t want to, fuck it, we’ll pay for it ourselves; we have the money on our own. So, a few labels have expressed interest and want to hear more music, and I think they want to see what we did with the EP.
Metal Rules: Who did the cover art for the EPs?
Robbie Crane: We had a girl, one of Keri’s buddies, called Renata. The EP has two covers. The first one was the stars, which was by Renata, which was going to be the original pressing of 3000, so the new pressing has a rose on it.
Metal Rules: That’s the one on sale on the website right now?
Robbie Crane: Yeah, now that is the new one you can order. I haven’t even seen them yet, because we just pressed them. We had some problems initially with the website in getting them out, and the problem was that they had gotten the artwork late from us in our pressing. Then they ran it wrong, in the wrong colors, and we had to send it back. It was such a scene; it actually pushed us back about thirteen, twelve days. So a lot of people were a little pissed initially, but they got their CDs. You know, we’re doing them all ourselves, we don’t have a manager anymore, mainly because we as a band want to have control for ourselves, and so far, it’s been great for us. Steven and everybody, we’ve all been involved in bands where there’s management. We want to do it right now as a band and see where it goes from there.
Metal Rules: Do you think that you’re still going to keep the name Adler’s Appetite when you release the album and so on?
Robbie Crane: You know, it’s tough, touring as Adler’s Appetite, I think, gets the point across, that Steven Adler’s coming out to play Guns n’ Roses songs. Recording under Adler’s Appetite makes us sound like we’re trying to compete or hold on to the Guns n’ Roses mystique or whatever. I disagree with that, and I don’t think we should do that; we should change the band’s name.
Metal Rules: Any ideas for a possible new band name?
Robbie Crane: No, not right now. When we first got together, we used to call ourselves Suki Jones. Brent Muscat came up with that. Well, obviously, it’s an Aerosmith song, but I thought it was kind of a goofy name, but we just did a couple of shows under it because it was fun. We literally got together and were like, we don’t know what’s going to happen, let’s just play and see what happens, and we’re all friends. We had fun together, so we did it, and it was like, it was cool, you know, but I think that more and more… and this is the other thing, we had managers at the time that were like thinking about the money “You’re gonna bring more people in if you call it ‘Adler’s Appetite.’ ‘Adler’s Appetite’ that rolls of the tongue and promoters like it.” As most musicians do, they listened to the fucking managers, and we called it Adler’s Appetite, and it kind of stuck. So to this point, it stuck, but I don’t think that we’re in a position where we can not change the name. I think we can change the name, and we probably should, we may because it’s not just Steven’s band; we’re all partners. Focusing on one member, although again it has helped, and it has got us some recognition, it’s going to pigeonhole us into being a cover band.
Metal Rules: Has anyone accused you of being just a covers band ripping off Guns n’ Roses’ legacy?
Robbie Crane: Sure. No, I don’t think they ever said that to us, not to my face, but you know, I could see why people would think that, and I think that is a big issue for us. Again, the first time we ever came out to play with this, it was more… you know, Steven had a tough past with drugs and whatnot. We decided, and that was very touchy for us. If you notice, the people who were picked by the management company and by Steven’s handlers at the time were all people who don’t do drugs and only drink beer, and that’s about it. None of us have histories of drug problems. They really wanted to surround him with people that don’t fuck around and just play music. And you have to realize we’ve only played for about a year on and off, and although we’ve done two tours with this, we’re trying not to go out and be a Guns n’ Roses cover band; we don’t have any plans on recording a live Guns n’ Roses record and releasing it.
Metal Rules: I was just about to ask about that… Aren’t you going to record or film any shows?
Robbie Crane: That’s a touchy subject.
Metal Rules: Like some bonus live songs for the record or something like that??
Robbie Crane: Well, we’ve been offered to do a few live records, like “Here’s the money, record them and go.” So we’ve been offered to do live records and all this crazy shit… live DVDs, I mean a lot of money, there’s a lot of money in it, and we’ve been smart enough not to do it. It’s not even something that half of us are interested in. It’s one thing to go out and tour for Steven and do covers for him, but are we profiting from it, a little bit, not a tremendous amount of money, let’s be realistic here, but it’s enough for Steven to go out and have fun and do his thing. So, that’s why we wanted to do an EP again to have something for ourselves as well. The same thing could be said about Ratt. I’ve recorded two records with Ratt [Collage in ’97 and Ratt in ’99], and are we playing Ratt cover songs? Yeah.
Metal Rules: OK, about the songwriting process, it seems it was Keri who wrote most of the songs for the first EP. How about in the future?
Robbie Crane: Well, the song ‘Empty’ was written by Keri a long time ago; an original version had him singing on it. That’s where we got the demo version for that. The other two songs were written and worked up by the band… a touchy subject, but it’s fine. Steven, Keri, and I actually sat in a room together. We worked all that music up for those two songs ‘Suicide’ and ’99’, and then Jizzy came in and put the lyrics on, so our songwriting process for all the 18 songs that we’ve written has been in that capacity, we sat in a room and worked them up, like “Oh, you’ve got an idea… OK.” I don’t know how it’s going to go in the future. It’s hard to say. It’s tough with any band, especially with this band, because there are egos involved—it is not a bad thing, just common with any band.
Metal Rules: Keri has an interesting history because he’s been in quite many bands. Do you know about that record he wrote for Jani Lane but didn’t play on it at all?
Robbie Crane: Well, actually, that’s not how it happened. He left Ratt and played with Warrant for a while, and when he was playing with Warrant, he and Jani wrote those songs together, and then Keri left Warrant, and Jani and he didn’t talk anymore. So Jani, a couple of years later, recorded a solo record and included most of those songs, so that’s how that came about. But Keri still got publishing for it, so as long as Keri agreed, that’s fine. I don’t know the reality. I just know how it came about.
Metal Rules: Have you had any plans for a video for any of the EP songs?
Robbie Crane: No, not right now; I mean, we shoot videos if we’re having fun, but to make an actual video to play on TV, no. Again, I think the EP’s purpose was more for ourselves to have something out and see if people are interested or not. They could have very easily listened to the sound bytes from the website and said, “It’s crap, fuck you!” but I think, in our heads, they responded positively. Is it Velvet Revolver? No, I mean Velvet Revolver is Velvet Revolver, and they’re one of the great rock bands. I think they will be one of the great rock bands. I mean, they have an amazing frontman. Scott Weiland, I don’t know if Stone Temple Pilots is big here, but they’re huge in the States, and Scott Weiland, it would be like getting Robert Plant in the ’70s to join your band. It’s like that big. And Duff [McKagan] and Slash are fucking brilliant. Those guys wrote a lot of those Guns n’ Roses records.
WORKING WITH VINCE NEIL
Metal Rules: A couple of things about Vince Neil. When did you first join him, and why did you leave after recording the second album?
Robbie Crane: Actually, what happened, I was the third guy that joined the band, he got Vikki Foxx from Enuff Z’ Nuff, he [Vince] got kicked out of Möthey Crue in February of ’92, and I joined the band in March ’92, and he had Vikki Foxx and Phil Soussan who is the bass player from Ozzy, and he asked me to join the band as a rhythm guitar player, and so I joined the band, we shot the video ‘You’re Invited (But Your Friend Can’t Come),’ I play guitar on the video, and that’s how I joined the band, and I was never a guitar player, I only play bass, but I was like “Yeah, I can play guitar kind-of, you know, sure, I’ll be in the video or whatever.”
Metal Rules: That song was on a movie soundtrack too?
Robbie Crane: Yes, an American movie called ‘Encino Man’ with Pauly Shore. So, I did the video, and we needed a guitar player to play the MTV Movie Awards; we had an offer to play, June 6th. We auditioned Warren DeMartini. He and all these people came down. Still, we finally ended up settling with Steve Stevens because, you know, he’s an amazing musician and a great guy and so talented. We thought he was the guy that would be great, so we had Steve Stevens play with us, and we did the first record. While we were in the process of doing the first record, the bass player Phil Soussan, we parted ways with him because our producer Steve, our guitar player, didn’t really think he fit with what we were doing. So I went back to playing bass, and we finished the record. Steve Stevens was so nurturing and such a good friend, he knew and taught me so many things, like a crash course, like “Here buddy, learn this quick or you’re out.”, you know, not in that way, he was very cool about it, you know. I played in Vince’s band up until ’96. The first record was in ’92, and in ’93, we toured with Van Halen, and we did some stuff and a bunch of tours in Japan, and then I did the second record in ’95. That record was tough, Vince’s daughter had gotten sick in the middle of the recording of the record, and we took nine months to record that record. Steve Stevens left the band right before it, so we had like four different guitar players play the record, and we settled with a guy named Brent Woods, from a band called “Wildside,” who was a nice guy at the time. We did that, and I toured with him till ’96 until about two months before he went back to Mötley Crue. When I left the band, Vince and I had a… he is a wonderful person, I don’t know if you’ve met him before, but he is a really good guy. Still, when he drinks, he’s a jerk, you know what I mean, as most people can be, and I at the time was drinking, and he and a cocky kid was drinking, and he had said something to me I thought he was disrespectful in front of a bunch of friends, and I didn’t take kindly to it, we got into a fistfight. And it was not a big deal at all.
Metal Rules: Who won the fight?
Robbie Crane: I don’t think anyone won, he never hit me, and he ended up all bloody. But it wasn’t so much because of me as he fell and hit his face on something, he was drunk, you know what I mean. And I take no pride in that incident at all. He was my friend. We had a falling out because of that. We haven’t really talked, although we did some shows with him this summer with Ratt, and he shook my hand. You know, he had said some stuff about me that I thought was unfair and only because if it was true, then I would be a motherfucker, but it’s not, and I know it’s not, and he knows it’s not. So, you know, I no longer choose to be friends with him, but I respect him tremendously, and I thank him for everything he’s done for me.
Metal Rules: I’ve also met Jamie Hunting, who also used to play with Vince a while ago, and he told me the same kind of stories like that. Vince used to be nice, but then something happened?
Robbie Crane: Yeah, Jamie is a good guy, friend, and a great bass player. But you see, his [Vince’s] bands now are nothing like the band we had then. It was a band. With us, with Steve Steven, myself, Vikki Foxx, Dave Marshall, and Vince, if somebody was bad that night, we’d yell at each other, it wasn’t like “Oh, Vince…” *acts scared* We’d say “Fuck you, you sound like shit, don’t drink all night, you can sing better.” or he would go “Fuck you, play the bass better.” and it would be cool, we were more of a band, you know what I mean. So with James and Keri and all… and Brent [Woods], it’s more of a… it’s Vince band, and they’re hired, players.
Metal Rules: Do you know what happened to the rest of the guys from the original Vince Neil’s band, like Vikki?
Robbie Crane: I don’t know. Vikki left the band on bad terms with everybody. He stole a bunch of equipment from Vince and the band. You know, it’s still the same old shit, but we don’t talk to Vikki, none of us talk to Vikki at all, he did some shit that… you know that’s why nobody plays with him anymore, that’s why he doesn’t play anymore in a band.
Metal Rules: How about the other guys?
Robbie Crane: Dave Marshall, our rhythm guitar player, I don’t know what he’s doing. He worked for Michael Jackson for a while, something to do with the guitars. I haven’t talked to him in a couple of years. Steve Stevens is playing with Billy Idol, and that’s it… Vince is in Möthey Crue, and I play in Ratt and Adler.
Metal Rules: Well, okay, we all know that? What are your thoughts on the Mötley Crue reunion?
Robbie Crane: I love the Motley Crue reunion. I think it’s fucking cool. I mean, I’m a huge Motley Crue fan, always have been, always will be. My bass tech Darren Meeks works for Nikki [Sixx] now, so I get to hear some inside stuff, which I think is cool. I mean, Motley Crue is one of the great American rock bands, and as a kid, I grew up on Motley Crue, and I love Motley Crue, so anytime I heard Motley Crue’s back together, I’m like “Fucking cool.”. They’re one of my favorite bands. So I think it’s good!
Metal Rules: Okay, let’s talk about Ratt for a bit. What is the status of Ratt right now?
Robbie Crane: Well, I was fortunate enough to play with Ratt when they first reunited in ’97-’99 with Stephen Pearcy, so for me, you know, being a huge Ratt fan as a young kid, I thought those were the coolest years because I got to see a band that I loved and grew up on, how they worked and got to play with Warren DeMartini, which was amazing and Bobby [Blotzer], who’s a great drummer and Stephen, who’s an amazing guy, and then, you know when Stephen left the band, I opted to stay on, and we got Jizzy [Pearl] who is a great friend of mine and John Corabi to play the second guitar in the band. You know, we’ve been doing it for five years, but there’s been, in my opinion, no commitment to the band yet as a whole. That’s kind of hard because Warren and Bob, who are the partners in Ratt, are in a position where it’s hard for them because they have Ratt’s legacy to live up to. Touring as Ratt as a band and playing the songs and keeping the catalog alive is one thing; I think it would be very hard to record another record with a different singer. So the status of Ratt right now is that they are a touring band, and Jizzy and I tour with them. We’re supposed to tour this summer with them and Cinderella in the States.
Metal Rules: Rumours have been going around that Stephen is back in the band once again, maybe even Juan [Croucier] is back, and Warren is out. It’s one of those rumors. Is it always there?
Robbie Crane: You know, I talked to Warren today, and he is, as far as I know, the number one guy in the band, he’s the leader of the band, he does all the business in the band, and he would be the one I guess to say who comes and who goes. As far as I know, they made an offer to Jizzy and me two days ago, and you know I can’t speak for anybody in the band other than what I know, and as far as I know, we’ve been offered to do the tour in the summer. And if they do get the other guys back, Stephen and Juan, I encourage it. I mean, it’s only better for the fans, you know what I mean, but there’s a lot of bad blood there. I know because I’ve been involved with some of that and seen some of it happen.
Metal Rules: By the way, when the album RATT came out, the expectations were very high, and it was supposed to be the album that would bring Ratt back to the top, but it never really happened. It did, however, sell quite well in the region of 160000 copies in the US alone?
Robbie Crane: Something like that, it sold well. I think the problem wasn’t so much the market or the fans, I think it was entirely within the band, I mean, I was there, so I know. We did one single, and Columbia was ready to do a second single, and Stephen left the band. It wasn’t entirely Stephen’s fault that he left the band, and I’m not saying he left the band because there’s a dispute about that too, but you know it probably could’ve done better. I don’t think they allowed themselves to get to the next level.
Metal Rules: Still comparing its sales to other hard rock records at the time, it did better than most.
Robbie Crane: Sure. And you know, we did the record with a major label in the States, called Sony Columbia, John Kalodner signed it, and he was so awesome to work with, I mean he’s a legend, he’s the nicest guy too, he just likes what he likes and knows what he likes, and he’s got a good ear for music. It was fun recording that record, but unfortunately, there was a lot of infighting in the band.
Metal Rules: You also had Keri in the band [Ratt] briefly for the tour?
Robbie Crane: Yeah. I knew Keri via Jani Lane. We were auditioning guitar players [for Ratt], and he got the gig. Then when Stephen left the band, Keri also left to play with Warrant. See, we weren’t sure if Ratt was going to stay together in January of 2000, Stephen left, and none of us knew what would happen, so it was probably better at the point for Keri to move on. But then we decided to get Jizzy in the band, and then John Corabi came about three days later, and then we just went from there.
Metal Rules: How about John Corabi? How did he come to be in Ratt? I mean, he has a long history of being in bands like Union, The Scream, Mötley Crue, and so on?
Robbie Crane: Corabi, I’ve known John since I was seventeen. We’ve been friends for a long time. It’s funny… Union had borrowed a piece of equipment through a crew guy we both knew, and John Corabi called me and said, “Hey, I’m bringing your guitar case back. Where do you wanna meet?” So I met with him, and he said, “Hey man, I heard Keri left Ratt and if you need a rhythm guitar player, let me know cos I’m looking for work.” I was on the side of a freeway going, “John Corabi wants to play the second guitar for Ratt. Are you kidding me? Are you serious?” I called Warren DeMartini and told him John Corabi wants to play the second guitar in Ratt, and he was like, “Cool. Wow.” So we called his manager, who was Ratt’s manager at the time, John Greenberg, and worked the deal out like in an hour or two, and then two days later we were rehearsing, with Jizzy and John. It was funny. John’s cool. He’s fucking amazing musician.
Metal Rules: Do you know what he’s up to now?
Robbie Crane: Union. He’s playing with Union again with Bruce Kulick.
Metal Rules: He did a couple of shows in Japan with Union.
Robbie Crane: And they will come to play in Europe too.
Metal Rules: Yeah, but I heard that it would not be under the name Union. It’s just Bruce Kulick and Eric Singer with Chuck Garric on bass because Jamie [Hunting] doesn’t want to do it. Do you know Chuck, by the way?
Robbie Crane: Yeah, I’ve known Chuck forever. Chuck’s awesome.
Metal Rules: Being his good friend, could you tell if he [John Corabi] was surprised or pissed off when Vince came back, and he was out of Mötley Crue?
Robbie Crane: I think he was surprised. I told him because Vince had been telling me. You know, I was touring with Vince up till August of ’96, and the reason we were going to finish touring was that Vince was going back to Motley Crue and had worked it all out with Motley Crue, and they didn’t tell John until January of ’97 that he was out of Motley Crue. So was he pissed off? I don’t know. I think he was more hurt. But when you get into a band like that, like me being in Ratt, you can’t, although you can commit as a musician and you can put your heart and soul into it, you can’t completely commit your whole heart because you never know if they’re going to bring the original guy back. Especially in his position, and they tried, you know, they did a great record with John, one of the best Motley Crue records ever. They made a valiant effort, but it just didn’t pan out financially for the record company or the band, so John being the new guy, they thought he was the problem, I guess. I think John Corabi is an amazing, great musician and a great guitar player, great songwriter.
Metal Rules: How do you like his old band ‘The Scream’?
Robbie Crane: One of the coolest rock bands. LET IT SCREAM was such a badass record.
Metal Rules: Did you ever see them live?
Robbie Crane: Oh, yeah, a bunch, twenty times. I saw them before they got signed, when they got signed, and after. Oh, man, they were amazing. John [Alderete] on bass; he’s an amazing bass player. They were a great band, a great fucking band. John [Corabi] has been in so many great bands. I was never a big Union fan. I thought that was an odd choice because John is such a bluesy fucking hardcore badass.
Metal Rules: Did you, by the way, ever meet Robbin Crosby?
Robbie Crane: I met him twice. The first time I met him, he was okay, he was cordial, and the second time I met him, he was just a wonderful guy, a really nice guy. I mean, I don’t know the guy, and I just thought that it was unfortunate he was in the position he was in. In my opinion, I don’t know because I wasn’t there, but he had a lot to do with the Ratt mystique as well as with the songwriting, him and Warren together, and Stephen and Juan.
Metal Rules: Do you know why it is that Warren DeMartini, who nowadays is the heart of Ratt, keeps being rumored as being the guitarist for Dio, Def Leppard, and whichever band every year?
Robbie Crane: You know, he did play with Dio for a couple of weeks, but I don’t think it panned out for either one of them. But he’s never told me that he’s leaving Ratt. Warren played with Whitesnake at one point, years ago. He gets offers to play with everybody. He’s a great guitar player, a really good guy. I think Warren sees all of us as musicians and that we can play in Ratt and in other bands too, and in some ways, he wants to play and experience other things as well. The only band that I know that he played with is Dio.
Metal Rules: Why is it that Ratt hasn’t released anything in the past five years? Are there legal reasons behind that because that’s what I’ve heard?
Robbie Crane: No, not at all. Whoever says that is a liar. It’s a bunch of bullshit. It’s posturing. Some people say they can’t release anything because I’ll get a big piece of it. Some people say we can’t release anything because of legal matters. That’s a lie, an absolute lie. The name Ratt is owned by a company called WBS Incorporated, nobody’s business who owns it, but Bobby and Warren own the corporation, so they can release anything they want under the name Ratt anytime they want. So, I feel that they won’t record because they don’t want to ruin the name Ratt. They don’t want to fuck with the legacy. I don’t think they want to fuck with legacy. I don’t blame them. It is one thing you record a record with me, but it’s another thing to record with a completely new singer and everything. Just my bit?
Metal Rules: And for the same reason, there are also no live releases or anything?
Robbie Crane: Yeah, the live releases, they could do a live thing, but it’s a combination between the fact that they don’t want to mess with the legacy and that it’s hard because I, Jizzy, and John Corabi are hired players in the band, but for us to record something with them, they have to… we won’t just let them pay us a little bit of money, we want to be partners in it. So, for them to record something and let us be partners means long terms, so they don’t want to commit, and I don’t blame them. Those are their songs, and it’s their band. So there’s been a bit of headbutting there.
Metal Rules: Have you ever even had any discussion about a new record?
Robbie Crane: Sure, of course, yeah. We’ve never written any song together.
Metal Rules: Did you ever make any demos or anything?
Robbie Crane: Never, not with this current band. With Ratt, with me, Bobby, Warren, and Stephen, we have, but never with Ratt as it is right now. We’ve never recorded one song together.
Metal Rules: OK. Thank you very much for the interview.
Robbie Crane: That’s cool. Thank you so much.
Marko and Robbie after the show in Stockholm 2005