The members of Norway’s renowned progressive/psychedelic black metal band ENSLAVED have announced the winners of their first-ever video contest. Fans around the world were asked to create and submit a video for the track “Ethica Odini” from the band’s Billboard-charting new album Axioma Ethica Odini, which was released in Europe on September 27th and in North America on September 28th.
Guitarist/songwriter Ivar Bjørnson comments on the competition: “First and foremost we wish to thank everybody who has taken part in this contest. We have seen many exciting visual interpretations of our musical and conceptual universe; some of them stood out from the rest and we are really happy to announce the three winners of the competition. Also, we would like to take the opportunity to apologize for the delay in announcing the results. We have simply been outmaneuvered by touring and poor internet access on our touring trek throughout the last month. Thank you for your patience, and hope you will enjoy watching our new videos as much as we do!”
Vocalist/bassist/lyricist Grutle Kjellson adds: “Thanks a lot to all you great people that used your talent, passion and precious time on this contest! You should know that we are very proud of you all, and that we really appreciate your efforts! You are not afraid to bleed, not afraid to dream!”
The members of ENSLAVED have awarded First Place toLuka Bajt (LookaB) from Slovenia. View the video here.
Clean vocalist/keyboard player Herbrand Larsen comments on the winning video:“[It] is original. It’s not a typical metal video and originality is always appreciated. It uses elements from the [album] cover, both shapes and colors… something that connects the video with the aesthetics used in the cover [art]. Speed and motion suits the riffs and the tempo in the song. I’m very impressed, especially thinking of the pressure of time all the directors had to work under.”
Drummer Cato B. adds:“The winning video had a clear concept and a defined script, and [it] also carried along some elements from the album cover. In addition, the video captured the mood of the song, plus was original and well-crafted. Congrats, Luka!”
Lead guitarist Ice Dale further comments:“I liked the atmosphere in the video and the way it affected the song. It reminded me of the Tool videos which are personal favorites of mine. The use of colors from the cover artwork was also cool and gave it the right vibe. The video stands out from the rest and deserves to be the video for ‘Ethica Odini’! Well done and congratulations!!!”
Luka’s winning entry will be branded as an “official” video for “Ethica Odini” and featured the band’s official YouTube channel. In addition, ENSLAVED will use the video in a live setting. Luka Bajt will also receive:
ALL VERSIONS of Axioma Ethica Odini, including the limited edition wooden box, autographed by the band.
A special “thank you” video from ENSLAVED.
Two guest list spots + a Meet & Greet session with ENSLAVED at a live concert.
Second Place has been awarded toGildo Iacovella (TheSpiral8) from Italy. View the video here.
Gildo’s winning entry will be branded as an “official” video for “Ethica Odini” and featured the band’s official YouTube channel. Gildo Iacovella will also receive:
A special “thank you” video from ENSLAVED.
Two guest list spots + a Meet & Greet session with ENSLAVED at a live concert.
Third Place has been awarded to Miller Arias (Hammerheart) from Colombia. View the video here.
Miller’s winning entry will be branded as an “official” video for “Ethica Odini” and featured the band’s official YouTube channel. Miller Arias will also receive:
A special “thank you” video from ENSLAVED.
Axioma Ethica Odini debuted at #16 on the Billboard Heatseekers (New Artists) chart, #40 in the Current Hard Music Albums chart, and #72 on the Independent Current Albums chart the week following its release.
ENSLAVED will be direct support for fellow countrymen DIMMU BORGIR on a 32-date run across North America which launches on Friday, November 5th in Worcester, Massachusetts and ends Tuesday, December 14th in Quebec City, Quebec, Canada. Also on the bill are Blood Red Throne and Dawn Of Ashes.
Advanced pre-sale tickets & VIP packages for the “Darkness Reborn World Tour” are now on sale via ArtistArena.com (User Name: dimmuborgir; Password: tickets). Ticketing widget is available here (same log-in).
Confirmed tour dates are as follows:
11/05/10 The Palladium – Worcester, MA
11/06/10 Northern Lights – Albany, NY
11/07/10 Recher Theater – Towson, MD
11/08/10 Terminal 5 – New York, NY
11/10/10 The Masquerade – Atlanta, GA
11/12/10 Mr. Smalls – Pittsburgh, PA
11/13/10 Royal Oak Music Theatre – Detroit, MI
11/14/10 House of Blues – Chicago, IL
11/15/10 The Rave – Milwaukee, WI
11/16/10 Cabooze – Minneapolis, MN
11/18/10 MacEwan Ballroom – Calgary, AB – CANADA
11/19/10 Edmonton Events Center – Edmonton, AB – CANADA
Earache Records is due to release TOTAL BREAKDOWN, a 3-CD collection of essential deathcore releases, in a special value pack on November 22nd in North America.
TOTAL BREAKDOWN features three incredible deathcore debuts, each barely a year old, in one low-priced pack for an unbeatable price. All of the CDs are the full versions with booklets in jewel cases and are all housed together in a custom bookshelf box.
TOTAL BREAKDOWN features these great albums:
* OCEANO ‘DEPTHS’ – the Billboard Heatseekers charting debut album from the Chicago deathcore heavyweights.
* ANNOTATIONS OF AN AUTOPSY ‘BEFORE THE THRONE OF INFECTION’ – the debut album from one of the UK’s heaviest and most extreme bands.
* AND HELL FOLLOWED WITH ‘PROPRIOCEPTION’ – the debut album from the Detroit deathcore destroyers which landed on the Billboard Heatseekers Chart.
Bay Area thrash legends, DEATH ANGEL, recently shot a video clip for the song “Truce” with director Robert Sexton (SOULFLY, THE DWARVES, MONDO GENERATOR, AMEN). Photos from the video shoot can be viewed at the following location http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=193298&id=9938175758. Sexton previously worked with DEATH ANGEL on the clip for the track “Dethroned” off the band’s 2008 effort “Killing Season”.
The band is currently on tour for the first time ever in South America. Watch footage from their October 20th performance in Santiago Chile at the following location http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHW4D7L0guQ and below.
On November 15, Eagle Rock will unveil Heaven & Hell: Neon Nights.This DVD and CD release captures the historic four-man army performing at the Wacken Open Air Festival on July 30, 2009.
On this hot summer night, vocalist Ronnie James Dio, guitarist Tony Iommi, bassist Geezer Butler, and drummer Vinny Appice commanded the stage, transcending the mere concept of a heavy metal concert. The strength and veracity of Dio’s delivery, which has inspired three generations of metal vocalists, wrapped itself around each and every audience member. Butler’s declarative bass lines, Iommi’s legendary riffing, and Appice’s unrelenting fills provide the forceful heartbeat behind anthems “Mob Rules,” “Die Young,” “Neon Knights,” and namesake tune “Heaven and Hell.”
The DVD also boasts 30th anniversary interviews with all four band members as a bonus feature. Personal one-on-one’s are conducted with Ronnie, Tony, Geezer, and Vinny as they reflect on the making of their Heaven And Hell album. Additionally, the Neon Nights DVD has newly recorded personal tributes from Iommi, Appice, and Butler in memory of Dio.
2.) The Mob Rules
3.) Children of the Sea
5.) Bible Black
6.) Time Machine
8.) Falling Off The Edge of the World
9.) Follow The Tears
10.) Die Young
11.) Heaven and Hell
12.) Encore: Country Girl
13.) Neon Knights
1.) The Mob Rules
2.) Children of the Sea
4.) Bible Black
5.) Time Machine
7.) Falling Off the Edge of the World
8.) Follow The Tears
9.) Die Young
10.) Heaven and Hell
11.) Neon Knights
Tour poster: NILE, EX DEO, PSYCROPTIC, KEEP OF KALESSIN, PATHOLOGY
The reigning kings of technical, historically-themed brutality, NILE, have made the video clip for the song “Permitting the Noble Dead to Descend to the Underworld” available for streaming at the following location http://goo.gl/UYGi . The track come off the bands the latest release Those Whom the Gods Detest and was directed by Juan “Punchy” Gonzalez.
Nile will return to the Untied States with their second tour in support of their new album Those Whom The Gods Detest. Joining them will be the ancient Roman themed arsenal EX DEO, Tazmanian tech-death masters PSYCROPTIC, Norwegian extreme metallers KEEP OF KALESSIN, and brutal death grinders PATHOLGY.
“Those Whom The Gods Detest Tour II” NILE, EX DEO, PSYCROPTIC, KEEP OF KALESSIN, PATHOLOGY
10/31/10 Volume 11 – Raleigh, NC
11/01/10 Headliner’s Music Hall – Louisville, KY
11/02/10 Sonar – Baltimore, MD
11/03/10 Crazy Donkey – Farmingdale, NY
11/04/10 Rocko’s – Manchester, NH
11/05/10 Club Hell – Providence, RI
11/06/10 Peabody’s – Cleveland, OH
11/07/10 Blondie’s – Detroit, MI
11/08/10 Reggie’s Rock Club – Chicago, IL
11/09/10 Station 4 – St. Paul, MN
11/12/10 El Corazon – Seattle, WA
11/13/10 Hawthorne Theater – Portland, OR
11/14/10 Slim’s – San Francisco, CA
11/15/10 Brick By Brick – San Diego, CA
11/16/10 The Key Club – Hollywood, CA
11/17/10 U.B.’s Bar – Mesa, AZ
11/18/10 The Rock – Tucson, AZ
11/19/10 The War Legion Underground – Amarillo, TX ç NO Nile, Ex Deo
11/20/10 Emo’s – Austin, TX
11/21/10 Numbers – Houston, TX
11/23/10 Club Firestone – Orlando, FL
11/24/10 Culture Room – Fort Lauderdale, FL
Reduced service charge tickets on sale now through www.Enterthevault.com and all major ticketing services.
NILE’s latest state-of-the-death-metal-art release Those Whom the Gods Detest. Produced and mixed by Neil Kernon (NEVERMORE, CANNIBALCORPSE, QUEENSRYCHE), along with a stellar drum recording job by Erik Rutan (CANNIBAL CORPSE, VITALREMAINS, GOATWHORE), Those Whom the Gods Detest features the bands strongest production and perhaps their best material to date!
MOTÖRHEAD’s new label, Motorhead Music, in conjunction with EMI Music Services, will issue the band’s new studio album, The World ls Yours, on December 13th in the UK. Release dates for other territories will be announced soon.
The album, recorded with producer Cameron Webb, will include the following tracks:
‘Born To Lose’
‘I Know How To Die’
‘Get Back In Line’
‘Devils In My Head’
‘Rock ‘N’ Roll Music’
‘Waiting For The Snake’
‘Brotherhood Of Man’
‘I Know What You Need’
‘Bye Bye Bitch Bye Bye’
Drummer Vinny Appice (HEAVEN & HELL, BLACK SABBATH, DIO) told “Metal Shop”‘s Ralph Cartel in a brand new interview that he has launched a brand new project, tentatively dubbed KILL DEVIL HILL, which includes contributions from former PANTERA and current DOWN bassist Rex Brown.
“I’ve been working with a new band,” Vinny said. “Right now it’s called KILL DEVIL HILL. It’s a cool thing. This thing just kicks ass. Unknown singer… His name is Dewey Bragg. And Mark Zavon on guitar. And Rex Brown from PANTERA has played on some of the tracks. He’s involved in it, too. And it just kills. So this will be out next year. We just hooked up management.”
The entire chat, during which Vinny also talks about playing with Ronnie James Dio for much of his career and possible future plans with the remaining members of HEAVEN & HELL, can be streamed below.
KILL DEVIL HILL is:
* Dewey Bragg – Vocals
* Mark Zavon (RATT, W.A.S.P., 40 CYCLE HUM) – Guitar
The surviving HEAVEN & HELL members Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Vinny Appice played a very special tribute to their fallen bandmate, Ronnie James Dio, on July 24 at the High Voltage festival at Victoria Park in London, England. The musicians were joined by legendary former DEEP PURPLE and BLACK SABBATH man Glenn Hughes and Norwegian vocalist Jorn Lande, who sings for power metallers MASTERPLAN and recently released his own tribute to Ronnie.
As previously reported, Vinny Appice has joined ARMS OF THE SUN — the project featuring Rex Brown on bass, Lance Harvill on vocals and guitar, and Ben Bunker (GRYN) on guitar.
ARMS OF THE SUN recently completed work on thirteen tracks that were produced and mixed by Terry Date (DEFTONES, PANTERA, SOUNDGARDEN). The material is set for release sometime next year through Extreme Music.
One of the most respected young guitarists in heavy metal, GUS G, has returned with an incredible slab of heavy metal. Today, FIREWIND releases ‘Days of Defiance’ in stores everywhere which features the incredible shredding of GUS G and the powerful, soaring voice of Apollo Papathanasio which had made FIREWIND one of the most talked about bands in their scene ever since signing to Century Media years ago.
‘Days of Defiance’ features the incredible single “World on Fire” (available here – and below): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4pRK7IMKR0), charged by some of the fastest and heaviest playing in the band’s history. While the CDs are in store everywhere, fans can take home special packaging such as digibooks, vinyl and more exclusively through CMDistro.com.
FIREWIND is also landing on American soil in a few short days for a special engagement of four shows. Featuring support from POWERGLOVE and THE ABSENCE, these shows will offer North America’s only chance to see FIREWIND in 2010. Don’t miss out!
Reunited Swedish death metallers DESULTORY will reissue exclusive deluxe editions of their Into Eternity and Bitternessfull lengths via Singapore’s Pulverised Records. Initially released via Metal Blade Records in 1993 and 1994 respectively, each record represents an important contribution to Swedish extreme metal history. To commemorate these two landmark offerings, both discs will be released together with bonus tracks from three DESULTORY demos circa ’90 – ’91. In addition, each record, originally produced by renown Sunlight Studio owner/producer Tomas Skogsberg, will be remastered by multi-instrumentalist/producer Dan Swanö at Unisound Studio in Sweden.
Said Swanö of the undertaking: “I’ve been remastering DESULTORY‘s demos and first two full lengths. The play time is more than 80 minutes! All the material has been restored to fit nicely together in the same playlist, and it’s amazing how much a few small tweaks can change the overall sound from ‘demo’ to ‘album.’ A funny anecdote is that I ‘forced’ the band to go to the home of Tomas Skogsberg in the middle of nowhere and pick up the original DAT tapes of the demos. Maximum quality achieved!”
The front covers and inside booklets have all bean tweaked with a subtle redesign by Greek graphic artist Anestis Goudas of Derz Design (Rotting Christ, I.C.S Vortex, Shagrath etc) and come with detailed liner notes by Terrorizer Magazine writer Olivier “Zoltar” Badin, with special assistance from DESULTORY frontman/guitarist Klas Morberg.
Commented Morberg: “When I wrote these lines in late September 2010, it was exactly 21 years since the DESULTORY journey began back in 1989. As we’re now writing a new chapter in our history by releasing the new album, we would also like to tell the complete story of the past. We’re really happy to be with Pulverised Records and are able to re-release these records, both brilliantly remastered by Dan Swanö. So, for all of you who’ve been with us from the start and anyone else who wants to know how it all began…Here it is. Enjoy!” Read the rest of this entry »
We received big news from two of our scouting parties: Our North American scouts wanted to enter Canada and were taken into custody by a BLACKGUARD. Meanwhile one of our German scouting parties crossed the Rhine river and when they reached the city of Krefeld, they were greeted by a BLIND GUARDIAN!
70000TONS OF METAL, The World’s Biggest Floating Heavy Metal Festival: 34 out of 40 and counting…
The 34 out of 40 confirmed bands are:
Uli Jon Roth
70000TONS OF METAL will sail Monday, January 24, 2011 aboard the Royal Caribbean “Majesty of the Seas” from Miami FL to Cozumel, Mexico and will not return you to the real world for four days until Friday, January 28, 2011.
Make no mistake, 70000TONS OF METAL is not your grandma’s cruise. It’s also not one of the cruises that share the ship with normal cruise guests. This is an all heavy metal cruise! Can you imagine that? A whole luxury cruise ship full of metalheads? And since there is no backstage area you will have the opportunity to mingle side-by-side with the artists in this incredibly fan-friendly scenario that has no comparison. It’s like everyone has a backstage pass!
Ticket prices start at US$666 plus US$249 taxes and fees per person and include all on-board entertainment, all meals, non-alcoholic and non-carbonated beverages at the dining rooms, most on-board restaurants and 24 room service!
What are you waiting for? You might even need a vacation from this vacation when all is said and done! Check out http://www.70000tons.com/ for more information and book your cabin NOW!
Thanks to Tom Hack at Massacre Records for setting up this interview
Thanks to Massacre Records for the promo pictures of the band.
Demonica is the name of a new American/Danish thrash metal act that includes the famous Hank Shermann known from Mercyful Fate amongst others. The band also includes members from Forbidden but I had the pleasure of talking with Artillery member Klaus Hyr. I was supposed to speak with Mr Sherman but when he couldn’t find the time did Mr Hyr did the interview instead. Some of the issues that came up were the past present and the future of Demonica and how it was to record the brand new album DEMONSTROUS.
QUEENSRŸCHE’S TRIPLE-PLATINUM ‘EMPIRE’ REMASTERED AND EXPANDED FOR 20TH ANNIVERSARY EDITION, TO BE RELEASED NOVEMBER 9 2010 BY CAPITOL/EMI
Deluxe 2CD and Digital Packages Feature Remastered Original Album Plus 13 Bonus Tracks, Including 10 Previously Unreleased Live Recordings
Hollywood, California – Queensrÿche has partnered with Capitol/EMI for the November 9 release of an expanded 20th Anniversary Edition of the band’s triple platinum-certified breakout album, Empire. The new 2-CD and digital packages both include the remastered album, featuring six hit singles, including the #1 smash “Silent Lucidity,” as well as 13 bonus tracks, among them 10 previously unreleased live performances recorded in 1990 at London’s Hammersmith Odeon. The 2-CD package is presented in a lift-top box with five postcards, a fold-out poster and a booklet featuring photos from the band’s personal archive.
After building a devoted fan base with album and EP releases throughout the 1980s, including 1988’s critically acclaimed Operation: Mindcrime, Queensrÿche broke into the mainstream across North America and abroad with the 1990 release of Empire. In the U.S., the album peaked at #7 on the Billboard Top 200 chart and its hit ballad “Silent Lucidity” quickly became a heavy rotation staple at rock radio and on MTV, topping Billboard’s Modern Rock singles chart and earning Queensrÿche the coveted MTV Viewers Choice Award for the song’s music video. Empire also made the U.K.’s Top 10, and the album’s international success led to Queensrÿche’s 18-month headlining “Building Empires” world tour, the band’s longest trek to date.
Empire also features the Billboard Top 10 Modern Rock hits “Jet City Woman” and “Another Rainy Night,” the Top 20 single, “Anybody Listening?,” and the Top 30 singles “Best I Can” and Empire.” In addition to the aforementioned live recordings, Empire (20th Anniversary Edition)’s bonus tracks include “Last Time in Paris” from the Ford Forlaine soundtrack, “Dirty Lil’ Secret,” and the band’s cover of Simon & Garfunkel’s “Scarborough Fair.”
Since forming in Bellevue, Washington in 1981, Queensrÿche has sold more than twenty million albums around the world. For more information, visit Queensrÿche’s official web site: www.queensryche.com
On Wednesday, October 20, 2010 THE OCEAN, who are currently on tour supporting The Dillinger Escape Plan in Europe, were robbed on a highway near Madrid. Said the band in a statement: “Two guys in a black BMW pulled us over with fake police IDs. They asked for our van papers and IDs and wanted to know if we had any money to declare. We were not skeptical at this point, as it is normal in Europe that you have to declare larger amounts of money when you’re crossing borders, so we told them we had merch money with us, and the guy wanted to see it. When we showed them the merch wallet, the guy reached through the open window, seized it and ran back to the BMW in front of us, where his colleague was waiting with the engine running. Unfortunately our van and trailer don’t match the speed of a BMW, but fortunately it’s not allowed to carry guns in Europe, as otherwise we would be in jail now for shooting the guy in the face.
“We are facing a loss of + 6000 euro of merch income of the last days and fees. The exact amount is still to be determined. As some of you may or may not know, conditions on support tours are usually grim. Fees are low and barely cover expenses for van, gas, highway tolls, ferries etc. There is no accommodation arrangements, we’ve been crashing out on people’s floors for weeks. Losing more than 6000 euro is something we simply cannot afford at this point.
We are asking everyone who is planning to order Anthropocentric in the next few weeks through our shop to help out. You can do so by donating 5 Euro when you place your order. All income generated through this will make the loss smaller for us.
Everyone who donates 5 Euro will receive a copy of the police report and a Thank You card signed by all band members. We would like to thank you in advance for your support!”
SHADOWS FALL is pleased to announce today’s release of their new CD/DVD set Madness in Manila! The set marks the impressive 15 year anniversary of SHADOWS FALL!
SHADOWS FALL’s first visit to Manila, Philippines came when many bands weren’t performing in the city, but through the immense devotion of their fans, the band had a massive, unprecedented reception.In April 2009, the band made their triumphant return to the Philippines to headline the Pulp Summer Slam Festival in Manila for over 22,000 people! Madness in Manila chronicles this event, and includes over 60 minutes of live footage, pyro and all, and various little gems from their 2009 Far East tour. Bonus footage includes video from the Philippines show performance of ‘Redemption’ and ‘Venomous’, the Japan Club Citta show performance of ‘The Light That Blinds’, and the Korean show performance of ‘Thoughts Without Words’. Also included with the DVD is an audio CD of the performance!
SHADOWS FALL is pleased to announce their first and only New York City performance this year, taking place at Santos Party House on December 18th, 2010. Santos Party House is an intimate venue, so this particular show should not be missed by any metal fan! A limited amount of pre-sale tickets will be available to fans beginning today at 3pm ET. The pre-sale tickets include a special commemorative show laminate, and the first 30 people in line on the day of show that purchased tickets through the special pre-sale will be invited to a pre-show to hang out with the band! Act now and don’t miss this awesome opportunity! Purchase your tickets here!
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Cradle Of Filth announces February 2011 headlining North American tour
“FEARnet and Decibel Presents: Creatures From The Black Abyss Tour” to kick off in February
ENGLAND – Britain’s world-renowned extreme heavy metal act, Cradle Of Filth, has announced dates for the band’s first North American tour since 2009, a headlining run on the “FEARnet and Decibel Presents: Creatures From The Black Abyss Tour”, set to kick off in February. Nachtmystium, Turisas, and Daniel Lioneye will round out the tour’s impressive package on Cradle Of Filth’s long-awaited return to North American shores.
In lieu of this exciting news, the band’s infamous frontman, Dani Filth, has left a special video message for the legions of patiently waiting Cradle Of Filth fans exclusively on FEARnet.com. Head HERE for more details.
Tickets for the “FEARnet and Decibel Presents: Creatures From The Black Abyss Tour” will go on sale on October 30th, while special preorder tickets and VIP meet and greet ticket packages will go on sale tomorrow at 3:00 PM local market time exclusively through Artist Arena at: http://tixx1.artistarena.com/cradleoffilth/. Meet and greet packages are limited, so fans are encouraged to seize this rare opportunity before it’s too late.
The Grammy nominated, Cradle Of Filth, continues to shock, excite, disgust, and inspire in equal measures. Their forthcoming studio album – and ninth overall – Darkly, Darkly, Venus Aversa, will hit stores on November 9th on Nuclear Blast Records.
A loyal stalwart to the satanic horror ethos, Cradle Of Filth’s forthcoming, Darkly, Darkly, Venus Aversa, is a concept album based on Adam’s first wife, the lascivious demoness Lilith. It was recorded at Monkey Puzzle Studios, near Bury St. Edmunds in Suffolk, England, and is the follow-up to 2008’s Godspeed On The Devil’s Thunder. Artwork comes courtesy of Natalie Shau.
Whether through their wildly elaborate & theatrical live shows (which incorporate giant lumbering puppets, fire-breathing dancers, freaks and stilt-walkers), provocative merchandise (including the now legendary ‘Jesus Is A C***’ t-shirt), breathtaking artwork, or the weighty subject matter of their albums (their last told the story of a French Lord who fought alongside Joan Of Arc before embarking on a horrific killing spree), Cradle Of Filth is a band whose uncompromising stance has been rewarded with legions of fans around the world, making them the most successful British heavy metal band since Iron Maiden.
Be sure to check out the Darkly, Darkly, Venus Aversa mini-site for exclusive Cradle Of Filth media, including song previews, video blogs, an iPhone app, and more.
Stay tuned to for more information on Cradle Of Filth, the “FEARnet and Decibel Presents: Creatures From The Black Abyss Tour”, and Darkly, Darkly, Venus Aversa.
“FEARnet and Decibel Presents: Creatures From The Black Abyss Tour”…