The Finnish Speed – and Thrash Metal Special – Part 2

March 21st, 2005
by Luxi Lahtinen

 

Do you see playing live for your audience kind of as a ?necessary evil? and vital thing to get your band?s name spred around amongst people or do you more or less consider it just a ?fun and entertaining thing? to do without being worried about its promotional values too much at all?

Niko (Bloodride): We are just about to getting started what comes to playing live. I think it?s always fun to play gigs.

Teemu (Bloodride): Well, both. Playing live is a great fun and a well-played energetic gig also makes people remember your band. So far I haven?t worried much about these ?promotional values?, to me it?s more or less like ?have some beer and thrash on? -thing as it has always been for me before. Only thing which is not too cool is that you have to carry your gear around and all that, so we might find some use for eager roadies for that particular task in the future? (anyone?)

Jope (HateFrame): I think it?s a good way to make your band known. I have always loved playing live. We did somewhat 100+ gigs with To/Die/For and another 100+ gigs with other bands I?ve been in and it has always been fun.

Jari (The Scourger): Playing live is the salt of the earth. The live experience is something to look forward to. It also has an enormous promotional value due to the visuality and connection to the audience. 


The sky is turning red…” The Scourger  

Seppo (The Scourger): We have been lucky to get some gigs at great venues and the response has been good. It hasn’t yet reached the intensity of a Slayer gig but we have managed to get the pit rolling a few times. Anyway, if the halls are empty of full it doesn’t matter, we always give 110 percent when on stage. There you go, damn it!

Tom (Murdread): “Necessary evil?” – Hell no!! Playing live is one of the most rewarding things involved when being a part of a band. Of course it’s exhausting at times when you don’t have roadies to do the soundchecks and when you wake up the next morning with a headache. But as soon as you get onstage is when you remember what it’s all about. The promotional values are important, too, but I enjoy playing live to death. I’d do it just for the fuck of it!!

Kusmar (Witheria): It’s a legal way to get high.

Tuberculosis (Witheria): Definitely not a necessary evil. I enjoy playing live and the interaction between the maniacs in the audience. There should be more of those maniacs out there, but we’re doing progress. There’s always some unexpected situations in a Witheria gig, which is nice!

Sightless: There?s no point in playing in a band if you don?t play live. That?s what the band is for, so that?s the most entertaining thing in this, among many other nearly as entertaining things. I just want to rage and roar on the stage, and if that works as a promotion, it?s ok.

Riku (Solitaire): Playing live is fun, entertaining, vital and necessary, but certainly not evil. I think Solitaire is a real good live band, we all like playing live and it?s ?the bread and butter? in this game. We?ve made our name mostly by our live shows and you can never underestimate the promotional value of playing live on stage in front of the people, it?s the biggest thing.

Burning Empire: Playing gigs is the best thing ever! We could sell our souls to the devil (again) if we had a possibility to tour all the time and all around the globe, that is a dream to be filled and a goal to be achieved. So we really love playing live.

Sami (Nailgunner): For me doing shows backed with a band of such a killing capacity as Nailgunner is very enjoyable, as the band is so fucking violent and brutal on stage! All I can do is to throw myself totally into waves of ?nukkklear thrashing warfare? and bang my head like a maniac. I don?t even care if it?s good promotion or something that must be done, I enjoy it like nothing else and that?s enough for me!

Jori (Nailgunner): Simply put, playing a show with Nailgunner is one of the best things you can do with your pants on.

 

When are you going to play live next time? Any a bit more extensive tours in sight in the next few coming months or so…?

 

“Assault & battery” Petteri of BLOODRIDE rapes some skin…

Niko (Bloodride): 26th of February at Nosturi, Helsinki.

Teemu (Bloodride): Yeah, this upcoming tour starts at Nosturi and ends at Nosturi so it?s not ?that extensive??, heh! There are some gigs planned for us in the future, but they are not confirmed yet. And no tours in sight yet either… You people can find more info on gigs from our homepage and also if you happen to arrange gigs, then please get in touch! We are just brilliant live, nice persons and cheap, too (?Cannot blame them on a lack of self-confidence, he!?  ~ Luxi wanted to add ~)

Sightless: Our first gig will take place at Turun Klubi, Turku on 23rd of March with some great old names from the Finnish Black Metal scene. No further plans after that yet. Surely we?re hungry for more.

Tuberculosis (Witheria): As of today, we have only one confirmed gig at Maxim, Salo 20th of May. We are in the process of booking more gigs. A tour would be great and we are trying to book some gigs with fellow bands to make some sort of a mini tour.

Riku (Solitaire): Right now we have no confirmed live dates. We?ll certainly try to get as many gigs as we can in Finland and hopefully in Europe, too. I don?t think there?s gonna be an extensive tour, at least not in the near future. Our gigs are mostly one-offs, but we?ll have to give it a shot and see what happens.

Jori (Nailgunner): We really don?t know when we will be playing live next time. Hopefully soon! A tour would be really nice, but it isn?t in sight at the moment.

Jope (HateFrame): There are no extensive tours scheduled yet but hopefully we?ll be touring a lot this year.

Burning Empire: Our next gig will be in Lahti, at Torvi Bar on April 6th. We have to make better connections to get more gigs, so we have no tours in sight yet. 

Jari (The Scourger): We hope to play a lot of shows during this year. The next one is “?ljym?ki A Go-Go” 26.03.2005 in Helsinki.

Tom (Murdread): At the moment we don’t have any gigs scheduled, but there’s gonna be some action for sure soon. Keep checking our website for news. We’d like to go on tour, but since we are an unsigned band at the moment, it’s very hard to organize everything by ourselves.

 

 

 

“Uuuaarrghh…!!!” – The Scourger

 

Can you tell what has been your most memorable and successful gig experience thus far and when and where that happened exactly? What actually made it so memorable and successful to you in the first place?

Riku (Solitaire): Well, it must be the Headbangers Open Air in Brande-H?rnerkirchen, Germany. We played there on 11th July 2003. It?s special, because it was our first gig outside Finland and there were a lot of fans who actually knew our songs and they shouted along to them, it was really cool. I think many of the German underground Metal fans had probably heard our album and they had waited for a long time to see us live and we also had waited for a long time to get to play abroad. I don?t know, but that?s my guess why it was so great. 

 
Madness reigns… (Solitaire) 

Tom (Murdread): That would be our first gig ever. It was in our hometown Tampere one year ago to be exact. We have the whole show on video and part of the show was filmed with 2-3 cameras. And the last song in the show is edited and downloadable on our website! At the end of the show there was a whole bunch of maniacs banging to our stuff. It’s just one of those experiences you never forget.

Kusmar (Witheria): A gig from last November with Nerlich was totally chaotic. And the band was drunk as hell. There was a very intensive atmosphere in that particular gig, I can tell. 

Tuberculosis (Witheria): Yeah, we had not been playing live for almost a year before that gig. There were some technical problems and crap like that, but the crowd was awesome and I can remember something from that gig, which is nice.

Niko (Bloodride): We?ve done 3 gigs this far, so it?s REALLY hard to say?

Teemu (Bloodride): Well, I remember one thing. At our first gig at Stella Star Club there was these two girls in front row dressed in latex/pvc/porno-type-dresses and taking photos from us. That?s a sight you don?t see too often when playing in a Thrash Metal band. And no, they weren?t fans or groupies. It was their some sort of party we were playing at?

Jope (HateFrame): With HateFrame, like I said we haven?t been touring yet so I have to skip this question.

Jori (Nailgunner): It must be our show at some small festival in Kuusankoski. It was raining cats and dogs and there was only a few people watching. We played our most furious gig there, but on the technical aspect maybe our worst ever. All the songs felt like double speeded and we played only one song that wasn?t fast as hell. Pure Metal slaughter that was, fucking awesome!

Jari (The Scourger): ?Finnish Metal Expo? was it. The pit was rolling and the band had some serious fun. It was a moment of glory.

Seppo (The Scourger): Yeah, I share Jari’s views on this, FME was it for us. I was a showcase for us, we had to perform to a full house at the Expo. There were some 3000 persons in the house on that Saturday evening. The gig was excellent and the crowd liked it like hell. Afterwards I got drunk and enjoyed the vibe. One can’t say that it was a night to remember as I have no memories after 1:00AM o’clock, he-he…

Sightless: As you probably mean gigs played by Sightless, I?ll answer this one later. About gigs with other projects, we can discuss about them some other time.

 

How do you see the importance of this whole Speed / Thrash Metal as its own genre amongst other genres of Metal both for yourself and for your band?

Niko (Bloodride): Of course it?s important, but I think that most of people are just listening Metal these days and they don?t care too much about certain genres anymore. If music is good that?s all what counts really.

Teemu (Bloodride): Well, I don ?t also care much about genres either. For example it?s easier to describe your musical style to those through genres who have never heard you, but otherwise I don?t see it too important.

Kusmar & Tuberculosis (Witheria): Good Metal is good Metal. No genres please!

Jope (HateFrame): It?s very important for me as an individual who has been a great Thrash / Speed Metal fan since 1986. It?s only one kind of music that I like, but it has been very important for me. For HateFrame it?s of course very important because we?re a part of it.

Jari (The Scourger): For us Thrash is the natural choice. This whole thing with different sub-genres in Metal is a bit tedious. I mean, Metal is Metal, right? I think the media needs these labels more than the bands in order to describe what the band is about.

Sightless: I see it as one of the oldest, most long-lasting genres of Metal that has and will influence most of the past and up-coming Metal bands. It?s more or less the core of a brutal Metal, from where the other genres have evolved.

Sami (Nailgunner): For me it?s really not that important to divide Metal in many small subdivisions, as I feel related to other genres of all styles of Metal when it?s at its best. There are people who say “all Thrash Metal sucks” or “all Black Metal sucks”, etc. etc. – but that just shows they have never really took a change to get to know the genre at all… Of course most listeners of Nailgunner are Thrash metallers, as we are a Thrash Metal band, but if we deserve it, we?ll have a following from all styles of Metal.

Tom (Murdread): Well, Thrash Metal is first and foremost just music. I liked Thrash – and Speed Metal before I knew what it was called. Later on, when I learnt that the bands I generally like are called “Thrash Metal”, it didn’t change anything. I like it just as much what ever it’s called. To me, it is more important to hear music for what it is instead of selecting everything based on what genre of Metal you generally like. As a genre of Metal, we’d say “Thrash” is somewhat misunderstood these days!! Some people are saying “this” and “that” is “Thrash” and don’t know what the fuck their talking about. And other people use “Thrash” to describe some music in a negative way.

Riku (Solitaire): I really don?t separate Heavy Metal into all these various sub-genres, I?m not very good with that. Speed Metal is a good term for our style of music, it?s really descriptive, but I?d like to think Heavy Metal as an entirety without too much labeling, so in that sense I don?t find Speed?n?Thrash Metal as a genre of it?s own that important for Solitaire. We?re just fast, loud and rude cock?n?balls Heavy Metal.

Burning Empire: It’s good for playing gigs. It’s easy to get the right people to come to shows when there is a certain genre being represent. But still it’s good to have different bands on shows when you can reach those different people also. Genres mix so much with themselves these days so it’s not so easy to categorize bands anymore.

T Metal N (Py?veli): We listen to mainly Speed / Thrash Metal and we want to play only Speed / Thrash Metal. (“Hmmm?, ok-kay then!” ~ Luxi ~


T h e   S c o u r g e r 

 

As Thrash Metal as its own lovely and fine sub-genre of Heavy Metal in general seems to be turning heads toward it more and more constantly here in Finland after almost a decade, do you believe that this fact could even, and hopefully open some eyes in some Finnish record companies eventually to make them sign bands from this particular genre, the same way when we had bands like Stone, A.R.G., National Napalm Syndicate, Airdash, Dethrone, Prestige and some other Speed merchants and Thrash bangers doing albums for some of our domestic labels here in Finland back in the day?

Sami (Nailgunner): If you mean those general Finnish rock music labels, I don?t think that would be a good idea at all… Maybe if the releases would have good licenses abroad, but not the way Poko Records released the Prestige and Faff-Bey albums or Megamania released the A.R.G. albums because their albums never got the distribution nor promotion abroad they would really have deserved! I don?t know how big this current “Finnish Thrash Metal invasion” becomes after all, but for bands like us that does their shit in English, settling with the Finnish market only is not an option. There?s tons of honest and hardworking underground labels all over the world, so I don?t see any reason to sign some Finnish mainstream market deal.

Burning Empire: Yes, Thrash Metal seems to be popular again these days and we think it’s necessary for labels to get some of new great Thrash bands signed (such as Kill The Romance, Bonegrinder, Dauntless to mention only a few!). But as mentioned earlier the situation is hopeful while there are now more different labels for this kind of music.

Sightless: I think there?s a chance that situation might get better due to a recent popularity of a modern Thrash Metal and talented Finnish bands like Mokoma, Deathchain, etc. There?s also a wave of new Thrash Metal bands ready to work hard for their signing, like the ones participating this interview that have already sent some good stuff to some certain record companies. I hope to see more signed Finnish Thrash Metal bands soon.

Jari (The Scourger): Tricky question, Luxi. I don’t think it will, but I kind of hope that it would happen. There are many small labels releasing stuff already today. But what are the real resources? Marketing seems to be quite a small part of the record budget. Back in the day we had only a couple of labels that released Metal. In Finland it is also a question about how many bands of a certain type the market can handle. It’s easy to shoot yourself in the back in this country with overkill on the market.

Niko (Bloodride): I?d say that most of the bands probably get signed by foreign record companies. There are some small labels in Finland which are interested of signing bands, but what comes to bigger (major) labels here in Finland, they don?t seem to be that interested about Finnish bands anymore. Looks like things have been changing over the years. 


BLOODRIDE: “Now suck these…!!”  

Teemu (Bloodride): I don?t believe that Finnish major labels sign too many Metal bands though everyone in major media seems now to be so enthusiastic about exporting the Finnish Metal bands around. It?s mostly about this HIM / Nightwish ?thing. Of course it would help bands and our little genre a lot to win the attention of these bigger major labels to your side, but I?m pretty pessimistic about it though. Major labels are more into ?fast food music? and in a way I hope that Thrash Metal never becomes part of that.

Tuberculosis (Witheria): I think the Thrash Metal scene of the late 80′s/early 90′s was very good and unique. I like most of those bands, but that’s not something we are trying to achieve. Trying to recreate is not a goal, but rather to create something new. Some success would be great and it would help us to make full length-albums, which is our main goal.

Riku (Solitaire): Yeah, in those days many of the Finnish Speed Metal bands were on the major Finnish labels and Speed?n?Thrash Metal was even bigger back then. As I said before, the Finnish scene has improved in the past couple of years, so hopefully the bigger labels will realize there?s something going on again.

Jope (HateFrame): I can see some kind of a Thrash -boom going on in Finland at the moment, so I truly hope that record companies would sign more Thrash bands in the future. Smaller independent labels are doing it already, but bigger international companies aren?t that eager to sign Thrash bands at the moment. Hopefully it?s gonna change soon.

Tom (Murdread): It could, and probably will. But like I said before, there are some bands out there who are making “Thrash” for the wrong reasons. And for them to get label interest, you can be sure that the same inflation will await ?wannabe-thrashers? that happened over a decade ago. We are not saying it’s wrong to make Thrash Metal, no, not at all?! All we are saying is that if you make Thrash Metal JUST for the sake it’s “Thrash Metal” and because others are doing it, then it’s like ?bye-bye? Thrash Metal again. We’ll all be underground again.

T Metal N (Py?veli): I think that only small record companies are interested in Thrash Metal.

 

I find it a pretty damn unfortunate and even a bit sad thing that such now defunct Finnish underground Speed/Thrash acts like Necromancer, Oppression, Protected Illusion, Terrific Verdict, Mengele (now luckily been re-formed again and are called Wengele for a rather obvious reason ? Luxi adds!), Lycantrophy and a big bunch of other bands never got any real and potential opportunities to get their stuff out through record labels even if many of these unsigned acts were actually much better and talented musically than some, let?s just call them ?let?s-hide-the-names? signed ones. Are we basically on the very same lines with this?

Tuberculosis (Witheria): I agree. Some great bands never get signed, and some bands do get signed even if they don’t have their own unique style. But that’s how it goes. Labels do their own decisions and they too are just human. Is it unfortunate? Maybe, but there is not such thing as right or wrong. Time will tell if we ever get signed. Hopefully we do someday, but that’s not something we would compromise our style for.

Sami (Nailgunner): In a way yes, but I think those bands should have been in touch with labels abroad as well, and also one reason for them never being signed is the fact that most of Finnish Thrash Metal bands were far too late for the bandwagon of the day, as Death Metal and a bit later Black Metal started to rule the markets. This is not only the dilemma of Finnish Thrash Metal of late eighties to early nineties, but these kinds of things tend to happen in all genres all the time. It?s still not too late to re-release the demos or unreleased/sold out albums of that era in a CD -format, so hopefully we get to see some killer, forgotten jewels in the future!

Jari (The Scourger): Yes, this is true. Those where / are all good bands. Many times it comes down to who is at the right place at the right time. The margins are small. The amount of work you put down on your playing and the level of quality you reach, doesn’t always equal the amount of success you will get. I think this is valid for all kinds of music.

Niko (Bloodride): I remember that time very well. There were some really promising bands in Finland at the time. For example I could never realize why bands like Mengele, Protected Illusion and Lycantrophy got never signed? Because of a bad luck? Perhaps… Or perhaps because record companies weren?t that much interested about what was happening inside of the genre. I think that the situation is pretty similar right now. There are many promising bands in the Finnish Metal scene right now and it?s impossible to say which ones of the new talented bands get a chance to become signed. Some bands would deserve that more than the others? 


“THRASH UP YOUR ASS…!!!”  – B l o o d r i d e 

Teemu (Bloodride): I guess I know what you mean, some of those signed bands were really crap. Back then there were many great acts that never got the attention they deserved. But this music business is very incalculable, you never know what gets through. As we have seen, crap goes for the masses. Ok, a bit elitistic thinking maybe, but still?

Jope (HateFrame): Yes. There were many great Thrash Metal bands in Finland in the late eighties / early nineties. Unfortunately the record companies didn?t see the potentiality in them at the time. One of my own favorites was Desintal Limited in which Tonmi and Make used to play. They were very talented and played pretty damn furious Thrash Metal.

Riku (Solitaire): Yeah, but it?s never about music or talent with the record companies, at least with the bigger ones, it?s all about money and making profit.

Tom (Murdread): Of course it’s unfortunate. Record labels and other opportunities are the main boost a band needs to cut through. If it doesn’t happen right away, you just need to stick in there and improve your skills.

T Metal N (Py?veli): Yes, there were some very good bands like for example Mengele who didn’t record an album (maybe they will do it in the future, but as Wengele). This label thing isn’t important for Py?veli. We can do music without label. The only reason we could use a label for, is to release our music as a vinyl format as vinyls are quite expensive to do nowadays in small quantities.

Sightless: Mostly we are. It?s always the same problem with playing music and making money. If one is determined to get signed at any cost, it may be easier than to most of the bands that just want to play the music they like the way they want it to be played. The only option for us is of course the latter mentioned alternative; we want to get signed doing the thing we like. Record companies, however, must consider the needs and the general taste of the mass of people. It?s sad that many average bands have deals, and it?s even sadder that more talented ones don?t. The saddest thing is that that?s just how it works, it?s a matter of perseverance, luck and timing and one must just cope with it. That?s why there?s the underground Metal scene.

Burning Empire: We agree again with you. There are just too many good bands being left aside while shit is flying around and around. We are so fuckin’ bored to the same shit that’s being published these days and we mean this ?gothic and atmospheric blaa-blaa-bullshit?, we think we are not alone with this opinion, don’t you think (“you certainly aren?t?” Luxi throws in his honest comment)?

 

Do you honestly believe that Thrash Metal as a specific single genre, will be the next big thing in many countries, keeping in your minds that some of the once defunct Speed / Thrash Metal acts like Heathen, Dark Angel, Death Angel, Exodus, etc., have all made their comebacks, and even some of them have already done their successful comeback albums and still proved to be worth of interest and attention?

Jari (The Scourger): Thrash, the next big thing? Could Thrash Metal become mainstream? I don’t really think so. We don’t take this momentary rise of Thrash for granted. If we got noticed by it, that would be all very well, but I think that this is just one of those cycles that goes around in music trends.

Niko (Bloodride): It would be. It?s good to see old bands to ?come alive?. Some of those bands have proved that they still have something to say and some other bands have not. All genres need big names and I think if some of the bands ?hit big?, then the genre would also grow. Otherwise it would probably stay like it is right now.

Sightless: Nowadays it?s harder to see Thrash Metal as a specific single genre, as most of the Metal bands have influences from many styles of Metal. The great old names that are still doing the same thing and doing it successfully, are the ones representing that genre, but also the audience is now more oriented towards sort of a multi-influential Metal. The ones committed to the pure old school Thrash Metal are fewer than before. Still, it?s possible that Thrash Metal may become a big thing once again.

Tom (Murdread): It?s hard to say. The fact that the good old bands like Exodus, Death Angel, etc. etc. have made their own comebacks, definitely raises the chances of Thrash to burst out again. But if it happens or not, Thrash Metal, by now, is already a timeless genre of music that nobody can take away. The good old bands didn’t make “Thrash” because it was about to become the next BIG thing, they just kicked ass and later on somebody said it was “Thrash”.

Tuberculosis (Witheria): I don’t think Thrash Metal will be the next big thing. It might never reach the peak of its success again, and that’s not the point. We can’t live again the past. Thrash Metal has been successful already in different forms of influences in different styles. Maybe it will be big again in a different form. After all I don’t think Thrash Metal as a separate genre, but a style of riffs that are nowadays widely used. And the latest Exodus album is kicking some serious ass by the way, which is nice.

Jope (HateFrame): Maybe it?s not gonna be THE next big thing, but there?s been a growing trend for a while now. It?s really cool to see old favorites return with such killer albums like Exodus? TEMPO OF THE DAMNED. They really showed the new generation who?s who in the biz.

Riku (Solitaire): I hope it?s gonna be so, it would be an advantage for Solitaire, too.

Burning Empire: As it seems the next musical wave will be from a more extreme side, whether it will be Grind or Thrash, but from that area anyway. We’re sure that f.ex. bands like Exodus and Death Angel really deserve to be lifted up again with their latest releases that are simply damn amazing.

Jori (Nailgunner): No matter how big this ?return of the legends? will become, I really don?t believe that it will become so huge that you could call it ?THE next big thing?. All these styles go in cycles and now it just happens to be that people have woke up to the greatness of Thrash. It?s kinda funny that we formed Nailgunner just when all these started to put out their comeback albums. It never was the reason why Nailgunner was born, just a funny coincidence. In fact, I didn?t really pay that much attention to the Thrash Metal scene before I started with this band.

Sami (Nailgunner): Of course it seems to be in the rise right now and I don?t have a clue how big it will get, but for me that?s not the driving force of my involvement in Thrash Metal, so it?s not a big deal really. If we?re worthy of attention, we?ll get it – no matter what?s the current trend in Metal.

Kusmar (Witheria): We do this for the love for this kind of music. That’s the most important thing. 


BLOODRIDE have an urgent need to mangle you to dust… 

Teemu (Bloodride): I haven?t thought much about it, but as we know these things go in cycles, so it would be possible. It would be nice that these C.O.B. -kids could see the origin and start respecting the true pioneers of the Thrash Metal genre, too.

T Py?veli N (Py?veli): I don’t think so.

 

Do you sincerely believe that some of these now re-formed Speed / Thrash Metal acts could even touch quality-wise to the most golden and glorious ?80s era of what they once used to be when they were gaining massive headlines almost in every Metal magazine around the globe?  Or could it possible even be that some of them are there just to cash in the current trend a little bit, probably because they have also noticed that this particular genre in question has become a quite popular, ?new? trend amongst a younger generation of metalheads nowadays and people have again awakened to buy albums from them, too?

Kusmar (Witheria): Yeah, that’s possible, but times have changed and I think some old bands want to move on. And maybe that doesn’t please everyone. Quality is a very abstract thing. I think if everyone would like to make money, Thrash Metal isn’t a good way to make it. You should make dance or rap music or other crap if you wanted to make money.

Tuberculosis (Witheria): I think these reunions won’t hurt anyone. Some of them you like, some of them you don’t. The same goes with everything else. You can choose which records to buy and which gigs you want to see. Are some of them reforming just to earn some extra money? I don’t really care!

Tom (Murdread): It’s great that the old bands are re-forming. But if it’s just for the money or the trend, then they of all people should know what awaits them if so! To us, it doesn’t matter. We like the music anyway if it is a trend or not. And to make one thing clear: Thrash Metal is not a trend! Incorporating “Thrash” sounding riffs and parts to existing bands is maybe a trend these days. That’s exactly what we mean by making Thrash for the wrong reasons. So to say that Thrash Metal would be the next big thing, I doubt that. Thrash Metal has always been and always will be a TRENDKILLER!!

Niko (Bloodride): Nah, I just think that bands see this as a new opportunity for themselves. The scene is not that big anymore like it used to be. Let?s keep in mind that most of the scene was based on the underground to the people who actually did the job by themselves making ?zines, making reviews, interviews, having lots of penpals to writing letters, trading tapes and so on. Nowadays everything?s more commercial. It?s true that the bands were bigger in the old days? or weren?t they?

Teemu (Bloodride): I think they were bigger. I mean back then Metal Hammer was sort of like every metaller?s own ?Bible? (“so was a magazine called Metal Forces, remember?” ~ Luxi adds ~) or something and when you read it you were like ?Whoaaa?!!? nearly on everything and there were less bands back then, too. Or maybe this is just of this ?old days were million times better that now? ?thinking, I don?t know. I?m an old fart, you have to remember that, ha! Well, I?m also that cynical that I think some of these re-formed bands are back for some more money. You see, nowadays there?s more cash going on in the business than 15 years ago and some of those bands did really shitty deals at those times.

T Py?veli N (Py?veli): Real Thrash Metal is not meant for any business making…

T Metal N (Py?veli): If bands play fast, they have aggressive riffs and a dirty sound, they are good. When they play like the 80′s style, it’s thrashing great. But if they have modern influences in their sound, I simply don’t like or care for them.

Jope (HateFrame): Tough question, dude. Sometimes it feels like some of them are really just cashing in on the trend. Hopefully they are wholeheartedly back in business. Exodus proved that some of them can still make albums which are as good as their best ones in the eighties, but obviously some bands have lost that special something that they used to have back then. I won?t mention any names though.

Jari (The Scourger): This depends so much on the case. Some comebacks are better than others. When many bands start to make a comeback at the same time you always tend to question the reasons a bit. Exodus is OK. Dark Angel is also interesting. Heathen didn’t matter to me then and doesn’t matter to me now. Death Angel’s THE ART OF DYING is cool, they have received a bit of mixed reviews, both good and bad, I mean I have heard worse comeback albums than this…

Riku (Solitaire): I can only make a guess on their motive, maybe it?s money, maybe it?s the revitalized scene and having fun, but it?s gonna be extremely difficult for these bands to come up with equally strong material they released in the 80?s. It?s hard to compare new stuff with something that?s been regarded as classic for over 15 or 20 years. 


“THRASH TIME…!!!!” Jori from N A I L G U N N E R 

Sami (Nailgunner): No, there?s no way back to the heyday of Thrash Metal, I haven?t got any of the “old heroes” comeback album (except for Razor and Exciter), I stick to the classics… But of course many younger kids will find those classic albums through the newer material, so I can?t judge them. Any possible way to get the younger generation involved in the real thing is justified.

Burning Empire: There are a few bigger bands (which we won’t mention) that have been surfing the same wave, but with much poorer releases and these bands don’t deserve the same respect than some certain good ones, so this might light up a new dilemma which almost destroyed the Metal music in early 90′s, too many crappy bands being signed by bigger labels and the buying people just knew their taste and didn’t go with the flow. Let’s hope this doesn’t happen again.

Sightless: The 80?s Thrash ?period is not that far away, so some of these reformed big names can get their headlines rather easily. I wouldn?t blame them for being after money and using the current trend as an advantage for them, as it?s really not that easy to make such a comeback. However, as Thrash Metal has been changing over the years, the bands in this genre must be changing with it somehow, too. If these once ?retired? Thrash Metal bands can make a successful comeback, they most likely deserve it.

 

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