Bassist Rudy Sarzo
Interview by Marko Syrjala
Pictures by Marko Syrjala and www.rudysarzo.com
Rudy Sarzo is one of the best known bass players the metal world. He has appeared and recorded with Whitesnake, Ozzy Osbourne, and Quiet Riot amongst others. Recently he joined another legendary band – Dio – and I had a chance to talk with Rudy after their brilliant performance at the Tuska Festival in Helsinki.
Well first of all congratulations on being the newest member in Dio family!
It must be asked – how did you endeup here because it wasn’t long time ago when you still played with Yngwie Malmsteen?
Yes, I did. Well, this is the exact series of events: Quiet Riot broke up last year, around September, and I’ve been concentrating on a couple of things while I was working with Quiet Riot. I worked with Visual Media software. I did presentations for Sony and some other stuff. So you know, I was concentrating on that and also seeing what was available musically. And a friend told be that Jimmy [Bain] had left the band. So I called up Wendy [Dio, manager and wife] and I told her “Wendy, you know, Quiet Riot is no longer”, because not everyone knew that Quiet Riot had broken up and I just wanted her to know that I wasn?’ in Quiet Riot anymore and that I was available and that I would love to play with Dio. So she says “Well, Ronnie is working on the album, he’s writing with [Craig] Goldie. When the songs are written we will give you a call and we’ll see where we’re at”. So a few days later I get a call from Yngwie’s management about a tour. Yngwie was a wonderful experience to tour with, but it’s a solo thing and he plays bass on all of his records. It works for him and he shouldn’t change what he’s doing. It is excellent and it works for him, so that’s good.
How it was working with him? There are a lot of not so nice stories about Yngwie?
Oh. I have nothing but great things to say about him. It was an experience. Musically, he was terrific. People wise, we got along really well, his wife is great and he?s got a baby boy, a young child, it was like a family thing. He?s moving towards being more stabile and his music just keeps getting better and better. But then I get a call from Wendy to do the record. I was in the middle of a tour, but she said ?We?ll get Jeff Pilson to do the record?. He?s an old friend of mine, I love Jeff, he?s a good bass player. So she says, ?When you commitment ends, give us a call?. So when I finished the tour, I called Wendy and said, ?I?m available now?. Having explained that, I?d just like to complete the rest of my beer!
So you now you are a full time member of the band?
Yeah. And I am staying here for as long as they want me. It doesn’t get better than to be in this band, and I’ve been in a lot of bands and I’m being treated fantastic. I am just finding my way in.
You have played with David Coverdale, Ozzy Osbourne and now with Ronnie. Would you compare those guys somehow, who has the biggest ego?
I can’t say that David ever had a big ego. I mean, I was doing this crazy stuff on stage and David never said “Stop doing that”. With Ozzy it was more of a situation where he was making a transition from Black Sabbath, which was very traditional, to a new career. Now you see Zakk Wylde running around but in the old days it was me and Randy and Ozzy on stage. When I played there I was told just stand there. Do not move do not turn around don’t do that and so on. We were just like classic heavy metal. We were kind of building elements and that’s it! It wasn?’a matter of ego, it was just a matter of fitting in. With Ronnie he’s always telling me ” You know, they have this ramp in front - “C’mon, get in there!” I’ve been treated better in this band, and in some other bands, than in my OWN band.
That’s good to hear.
Because sometimes it’s a lot of insecurity when you’re joining in a band. When you join a band, the first day you get there it’s like moving into a new house. First you unpack your suitcase, get to know the neighbours, just trying to fit in. A month later you might say “You know what, maybe I should paint this room a bit different” It’s all a matter of being courteous.
If I have understood correctly you are saying that Ronnie is the best employer you have had so far. Am I right?
It’s funny. We were talking about that yesterday and I was telling him how impressed I am. Not just because of his voice which is still amazing but his command on the stage. And working with the audience? He?s the best on that I’ve worked with. He never did any shortcuts or he never give microphone to the audience and just say “you sing. you know! Do the job for me?”
It does sound that David sometimes like’s to do?
I don’t say any names here “laughs”. You know what I mean. I love David and he?s incredible as a person and as a singer. I’m a huge fan of his. But as for Ronnie, he always does all the high and difficult notes himself and that’s rare. Ronnie takes it to certain level that no one can beat him. He carries the whole thing.
Who decides which DIO songs to play on tours?
Ronnie’s very open, he’s always open to suggestions. I suggested a couple, “Gates of Babylon” and I suggested “Rock n Roll Children”, but we didn?t have time to do it today. The thing is some songs we have to do, like “Rainbow In The Dark”, which we love to do. But the great thing with playing with Ronnie is that there’s so many songs to pick from. To do “Gates of Babylon”, which he’s never done before, that’s a new thrill for me. Every year it’s playing new stuff that isn’t new but stuff from the past that hasn’t been done for so long. There’s not many bands that can do that.
You are doing a lot of stuff from Rainbow and Black Sabbath. Were you familiar with all the material when you started in the band?
I was familiar, because you know, you hear those songs all the time. But one thing is to be familiar and another is to get inside the songs. You can just learn the part but you also have to learn what the part means the foundation because of course you get rhythym section of the layer of the song. And the one thing that is the most challenging because of the absence for me is the Jimmy Bain songs, because he’s not a pick player so he’s got his own sound. It’s a certain feel with a pick and I play with my fingers and the sound is quite different then.
How familiar you are with the newer Dio albums like KILLING THE DRAGON?
Did we do something from KILLING THE DRAGON today?
No you didn’t.
Well to be honest I’am more familiar with the classics from watching them from MTV back in the 80?s you know..?
Did you know all the Dio songs before you got this gig?
No there are certain songs I had to learn. Even I knew them those but I had no idea how to play them (laughs).
On the new Dio album MASTER OF THE MOON, all bass duties are handled by Jeff Pilson. Did you get involved at all during making this record or is it just Jeff there?
No I was on tour with Yngwie when they were recording this album. So I wasn’t able to do anything on it. It is very hard to be in more than one band in a same time. It’s like living in two houses at the same time or having two families. It’s like “Hi honey, I’ll be right back” and then she ask “With who did you spend last night?” and I say “With my another wife (laughs) and “see you again in the morning!”. You can’t do that for too long that’s for sure.
Is there anything on this album you would have liked to do differently?
It’s very hard to say. Because again the songs were already written by Ronnie and Craig so there’s a certain essence you can’t change too much you know?
Even you and Jeff have quite different playing style..
You have to play for the song. You’re playing the songs and the music is Dio. You have to play Dio style stuff here (laughs). But when I’m playing those songs live I can try a lot of different things. Some might work better than others but I keep on trying. There’s a certain thing that I’m beginning to co-operate with which is playing more scales which comes from the stuff like “Gates Of Babylon” that type of you know. There?s a lot of ways to improvise and that fits for me very well.
How much you have changed your style of playing? I remember the video tape of Quiet Riot from year1983 or something on video and then five string bass, right?
I played it a bit with that today actually. You have to understand, I’m joining a band that already has a sound and a style so I have to mold myself to fit into it. Little by little, I find little things that I can fit myself into, y’know what I mean? But first the most important thing is for me to become the bass player in Dio. And then the real Rudy will come out, but my priority is to be the bass player in Dio.
In your past you have played bass lines which are mostly written by Bob Daisley, Geezer Butler and Neil Murray. How much do you follow the original lines and how much is just improvised by Rudy Sarzo?
Well I played with those bands with different drummers. I never got to play them with the original drummer that for example when I play something what I have been influenced by Bob Daisley. I tell you something interesting. There’s nothing against Bob of course I think he?s a great bass player, I’ll get tat you later, but for example when I play songs from BLIZZARD OF OZ or DIARY OF A MADMAN with Tommy and because Tommy plays so different from Lee Kerslake I had to play different. I had to play because you gotta play with the drummer. When I played with Tommy again in Whitesnake, Tommy doesn’t play like Cozy Powell or like Ian Paice so I had to play once again like Tommy does.
How much to you actually have to follow the bass lines played by Jimmy Bain?
Well, you have to follow that because it’s the song. Just like I have to follow what Ritchie Blackmore played on the bass - cause Ronnie tells me Ritchie played bass on the Rainbow albums or I have to follow Geezer [Bulter] on the Sabbath songs, otherwise I’m not playing the song, I’m doing something else. But a little by little I add certain things that fit, you gotta play what feels right. I had to change original lines and make it fit. And now when I’m playing with Simon he doesn’t play like Vinnie did so I gotta make it fit. He doesn’t play like Bill Ward or he doesn?’ play like Cozy either. It’s like a matter of making a fit being part of between rhythm section and being a part of the band. And then you start bringing in your own stuff. Then you are home and you able maybe able to move some furniture a little bit and stuff like that. But first you gotta settle in. It like when you move to a new apartment it?s your own apartment, your own house. Sometimes you don’t want unpack your boxes for weeks. You start with a room, fix that room is like a song and room is a song okay? Let’s start with a bedroom I’m gonna fix the bedroom the living room is still a mess all the boxes are in the living room and there are boxes in the kitchen then next week I?m gonna fix the living room. Get it together okay and now I got the kitchen you know what I mean it?s not all of once it?s like little by little and that?s what I?m doing right now with Dio. It?s very exiting because this is a great house to be, it’s a great home. I’m very happy to be here now. I’m blessed to be in this band.
A couple of question about the Whitesnake thing must be asked as well… How did you get that job in the first place?
I met David when Whitesnake opened up for Quiet Riot in 1984 in the US. Then when I left Quiet Riot, he called me up to join the band. He wanted Tommy and me to play on the record. From experiencing the relationship between David and John Sykes on tour I didn’t want to be part of another explosive situation. So when John Sykes was out of the band in 87? He played on the 1987 record so he might have been out in 86? Anyway, once John Sykes was out of the band I felt it might be safe now to be in Whitesnake. Those guys, they make great music together and if they could just work it out, that would be great, but that’s got nothing to do with me.
Have you ever been asked to rejoin Whitesnake after the last tour did with them back in 1994?
No. 1994 was the last time I played with Whitesnake and that was a very bluesy tour. And I’m not a bluesy bass player. I like metal and rock. I did the 94 tour but I was miserable, I wasn’t into the music. It wasn’t a band like it was when we did the 87 and 90 tours.
How do you like Whitesnake nowadays, the new Whitesnake?
I don’t know, there are so many new line-ups. I love David, I have nothing but great things to say about him. It was a great experience working with him. Tommy Aldridge, great drummer. I’ve played with him in many bands.
Do you know their current bass player Marco Mendoza?
He’s a great bass player.
There happened one funny thing last year in Swedenrock festival when David was doing public press there. One of the reporters believed that the bass player of Whitesnake is the same guy who plays in Twisted Sister. Mark “The Animal” Mendoza. David soon replied that he only uses good players in his band “laughs”
Really? That’s funny. “laughs”
Is there any musical difference between playing in Whitesnake or Quiet Riot or playing now with Dio?
For example, Whitesnake: When I played with Whitesnake Tommy Aldridge was in the band, same as when we played with Ozzy, and he leaned forward. There?’ three ways of playing: leaning forward from the beat, on top of the beat and behind the beat. Tommy was the drummer so he was the conductor. He leans forward, Randy [Rhoads] leaned forward, I leaned forward. It’s really good for a big place like an arena. Even though we were doing bluesier material with Whitesnake, we were leaning forward. With Dio there’s a certain element of being pretty much on the beat. But for example, “Gates of Babylon”, that would lean forward. I have to adapt myself to that position, that very disciplined feel. Then you have “Heaven and Hell” which is a little bit more? it’s a little easier. So I’m shifting, I’m finding my way in there and getting a feeling of what the song has to be, otherwise you’re not playing the song anymore.
How do you compare all the drummers you have played with? You have played with Tommy Aldridge, Frankie Banali and now with Simon [Wright]?
Simon is the most responsible drummer I’ve worked with. I always know where he is and he has a very fast beckbeat. I became a fan of his, that’s why I met him, when I heard him play with AC/DC and I thought he was unbelievable. He is like a machine BUT with a lot of feel on it. He was great to play with. It was great to play with all the guys, you know. [Craig] Goldyand I had a band with right before he joined Dio and Tommy and I joined Whitesnake after that, so I’ve known Goldy for a long, long time.
What was the band called?
It was called Driver.
You never made an album?
No. We were rehearsing and were just starting to get a record deal.
You also had one band called Manic Eden at some point. Tell me something about that band?
That was pretty much Adrian Vandenberg, Tommy Aldridge and myself. We first started with a singer named James Christian from House of Lords and it sounded too much like Whitesnake. We wanted something a little bit more 90?s so we brought in Ron Young from Little Caesar which really gave an edge to it.
Did you ever any shows with Manic Eden?
We did an advance tour in record stores and that was about it, cause then after that David [Coverdale] called us up to do the 1994 Whitesnake tour.
I think the Manic Eden album is a favourite for many fans. I think it sounds like Whitesnake a lot. In my personal opinion it?s much better than SLIP OF THE TONGUE?
You think so? It’s different, you know, a little more modern sounding.
Tell us something about a band called Project M.A.R.S? This came in mind because I just met Tony McAlpine a couple of weeks ago here in Finland.
Was he here with G3?
Yes he was.
That was just basically because we wanted to get a record deal. There was Tommy Aldridge, Tony McAlpine, singer Rob Rock and myself. I mean if you listen to the record the songs are more commercial than really heavy metal. It was great time because Tony is the most.. he’s a musical genius. I think him… because of their classical background he and Yngwie. They both are musical geniuses. I think that Randy Rhoads had the potential to be at their level but unfortunately it never happened. I mean if you listen to DIARY OF A MADMAN, that’s an incredible album. Before Randy died about one year later, he was then working on even more complex songs. Unfortunately he was never able to fulfil his real potential but there are people that have been able to fulfil their potential and Tony McAlpine in definitely one of them. He is incredible classical concert pianist. He can play for you anything you ever want to hear.
He’s now playing both keyboards and guitar on that G3 tour as you probably know?
Yes I know. Before he picked up the guitar he was a concert pianist. He’s a amazing with both instruments.
Did you do any promotion stuff for the MARS album?
No, as soon as we recorded that album and we didn’t get it signed to a major label, it was released anyway but we knew that we could just not compete with everybody else. So we decided then to call it quits.
A BOOK ABOUT RANDY RHOADS?
You are writing a book about Randy Rhoads at the moment?
Yes that’s correct and I’m going to finish it very soon. It’s called OFF THE RAILS..
What kind of stuff we can wait from your book?
Oh, it’s written in diary form. I mean, I’ve got these really nice crazy stories about Ozzy and Ronnie has all these great stories from Rainbow and Sabbath, amazing stories. My own motivation is to basically write about what happened. There are so much wrong information flying around you know. There are so many inaccurate accounts of the tours, places and dates and other stuff. Basically that’s all about it. I was the only musician who was in both Quiet Riot and Ozzy with Randy so I witnessed a lot of different things. All the craziness with Ozzy and stuff you know?
Do you have any idea when it’s coming out?
I can’t wait to finish it but I still have eight more chapters to do and then I’m done. Hopefully it comes out sometime next year?
What kind of relationship you have with Ozzy and Sharon in these days?
They both are great. We are running each other all the time. There was a Randy Rhoads introduction in guitar centre and they both were there and so on. There is really nothing bad to say about then. The reason that I started writing the book is because I met Sharon after one Black Sabbath show and we talked to each other like in the old days and she said to me that Ozzy doesn?’ remember anything from the past years. I thought that was a real shame, that he can’t tell about those years, so somebody’s gotta (laughs).
Did you use any outside writers to help to get this book written?
No. I didn’t need any help with this book because I was there by myself and I do remember everything “laughs”. You know what. When I’m on tour I always wrote down notes like: “Today I’m here, this is the hotel, this is the capacity” and so on.
So you do write diary all the time?
Yes I do. And that’s my source for that book. I got anything with me. I have all the reviews, interviews and other stuff. Journalists for example… all the bad things they said about Ozzy. Often they called him Benny Hill (laughs)
You mean that British comedian who died something like 10 years ago?
Same man (laughs).
It really must be interesting to read all that stuff after twenty and more years?
It is, I can tell you (laughs). It’s really funny and I sometimes felt that I was in a time machine.
I can’t wait to read that book. Let’s see what Sharon thinks when it comes out??
Of that period you mean? There?s nothing new about that nothing that they haven’t said about that already by them self. Everybody knew in the band that Randy and Sharon they had an affair and so on ? (laughs).
Have you been in contact with Randy’s mother too?
Yes. She is actually writing her own book at the moment.
Are you going to show you book for here before it’s going to be published?
Yes I will. Actually it’s the publisher who has to do that. I sign a contract which says that I can?’ disclose the content of the book you know?
She?s is writing her own book about Randy and that’s great. Book of mine is mostly stories just about me with Randy in Quit Riot and then it’s about us on tour. There are a lot of stories from Ozzy tours and stuff like that.
AND FINALLY ABOUT QUIET RIOT?
I’m going to ask a couple of questions about your old band Quiet Riot. You left from Quiet Riot in 1985 and then rejoined in 1997. Why did you decided to give that band another try after twelve years?
In the United States in 1997, there wasn?t a lot of rock. It was all grunge. It was no reunion, but we were like the first to be reunited.
Kiss did it already in 1996?
Yeah, but they’re a 70′s band. We were talking about the 80′s bands. Like Ratt and Warrant and all that. It wasn’t really a reunion because up until that moment, Quiet Riot had been working. They had been touring and stuff like that with different line ups. It was very simple, Marilyn Manson had a party and they hired Quiet Riot. So we came there and jammed and played at the party and thought “Yeah, why don’t we do it?”
You recorded two new studio albums with the band before you did split again, right?
Yeah, ALIVE AND WELL and GUILTY PLEASURES.
Do you want to say any comments of those albums?
It’s like this: You get married to your wife, you divorce, you get married again, you divorce again. There is nothing to talk about then?
I understand. After the first break it doesn’t feel the same anymore?
It is not a family anymore.
There has been a lot of talk in the internet about why the band broke up. Was it because of the singer [Kevin DuBrow] just stopped showing up?
Yeah, nothing new, happened several times. But there was more too.
You then did a couple of shows with Paul Shortino on vocals?
Yes because we were gonna get sued by the promotor cause we couldn’t find the singer. We did the shows only to not get sued and to pay for expenses.
You did two shows with him, right?
Three. Then after that Kevin appeared and then we did whatever and then he left us stranded at the airport. We’d go to the airport, Carlos [Cavazo], Frankie [Banali] and myself, fly to the city, no Kevin. We’re all on the phone “I can’t find him” Four times in one year. The fourth time we got sued by promotors. It was costing us lots. It’s on the Internet, I’m not saying anything new, I’m just repeating what’s basically already known. And I can also say a lot of good things. Frankie is great, I love Frankie, he’s one of my oldest friends, he was the best man at my wedding and I love him like a brother.
Tell something about new Quiet Riot DVD which came out a couple of months ago?
Well we never had a DVD and we wanted to do release it for Christmas time which meant that if we’ve waited some more…What we were doing was we were always on tour with Quiet Riot. Not a tour like this but like a on weekends. We mostly toured only in States…
And you also did some shows in Spain?
Yes we did a couple of shows in Spain too, I had a miserable time there but I don’t wanna talk about it anymore. And I wasn’t miserable because of Spain but because of other things which happened then… So if would have waited to play in bigger places you know like having a big tour together with Poison or someone else we would never get that DVD out before Christmas. We then decided to do a show in Key Club in L.A. The production company of that DVD was based on Los Angeles in Hollywood so we just did it. It was actually very easy thing to do.
Are you personally happy for the result? So far I have seen it just once so and at least it sounds like real live recording. No overdubs or fixing?
No doubt about that but once again. If you listen to anything that I’ve recorded live there’s never been overdubs in my playing. None, zero (laughs).
Not a single one even on Ozzy’s TRIBUTE album?
Not a single one. SPEAK OF THE DEVIL,no dubs. That was the last thing I did with Ozzy. Have you seen the video from “Speak Of The Devil” tour. Even there are no dubs there. I mean I’ve never done or will do any overdubs for live recordings, never, zero. Have you heard a bootleg from Japan with Whitesnake?
I’m not sure about that?
Yes that one I have heard.
There are no dubs there.
There’s a good bootleg DVD from that show too..
Really. That one I would like to see.
Ok there are no dubs. When it finally came out you were already broken up, right?
Yes it came out after we broke up. We broke up in September and it came out in November or something like that. I was not involved in the overall making of this except playing on it because it was not a very common thing to do for me then?
Did you ever get any money from that DVD?
Yeah sure. And I will get more if someone is buying a copy? (laughs).
Like you said, there haven’t been too many QR live recordings or video footage available before. I only remember one which was from huge outdoor festival and you played there together with Ozzy then?
Yes that was in 1983. It’s not an official one?
No I think just came out from the tv back then and it’s now on sale everywhere.
Who originally came up with an idea with man in the iron mask? “That” person? has later been used on almost every Quiet Riot album cover?
It was my idea. He’s a universal headbanger and he could be anybody? He’s is the man in the iron mask. Alexander Dumas kind of thing you know? “laughs”. I’m a big fan of his. Have you ever read Count of The Monte Cristo? What a great book. This guy in the cover is universal. Anybody could be that person you know what I mean? We wanted to use a face and we wanted it to be a kind of icon that is symbolic.
Do you actually own rights of this “guy”
No. The band Quiet Riot does. It’s like the name Quiet Riot, band owns it. That?s the reason Kevin can?’ use name Quiet Riot anymore. Legally he can’t.
Have you heard his new solo album? He’s currently on tour with bunch of guys like Steven Adler, Jani Lane and others ..
I haven’t. I’m not really interested of former Quiet Riot members. And I’m currently too busy with Dio you know? But I still wish them all a best of luck. Or at least I wish them the same thing they wish me! “laughs” or maybe just a little bit better . Still I’m quite sad for Frankie because he worked so hard to keep it together. But you know what happened?
This is actually little bit out of the subject but do you know why Frankie recently refused to tour with WASP even he just recorded two albums with them? Now they have their old drummer Stet Howland once again on drums on current tour.
I don’t know Stet but I do know that Blackie had been wanting Frankie to play with WASP forever. Frankie played on their records and?
And Frankie has been involved with WASP since 1989?
True. I’ll tell what happened now. When Frankie was in Quiet Riot Blackie kept offering him a lot of money. Once when there was no Quiet Riot then Blackie said “I’m gonna give you less” and then Frankie was offended and said no.
He played on six WASP albums but only made that one tour with them.
HEADLESS CHILDREN or what that tour was called?
Yes that one.
It was a matter of principle for Frankie because of Quiet Riot then I think. And now when there was no Quiet Riot anymore he got a much worse offer because he wasn’t in that band anymore. It’s a clear principle thing you know what I mean?
If I’m right you are not playing bass on all METAL HEALTH tracks. Why?
Why? Guess who I was playing with when those songs were recorded?
With Ozzy I guess?
Correct. You gotta remember I went in there just to do one song as a tribute to Randy. That’s what really happened and and I?m playing with Ozzy and I’m like emotionally I’m buried dry every night because Randy is not there. You go on stage and there is same stage, same show everything every night except Randy’s gone. And it was killing me. I got a call from Kevin and he says “You know we are making this record and would you come down and just do “Thunderbird?” I said “Yeah sure I’ll do that”. I go down because I had been with Frankie for many years. He was the first real drummer that I play with. Kevin of course I knew from Quiet Riot and Carlos he was in a band called Snow that we knew each other. Kevin says “Do you remember “Slick Black Cadillac?” I did and we decided to do it. “Well do you remember “Life’s a Bitch?” I did and so we recorded it too. So you know on that first session I did five songs. And I’m going to Kevin “You know what? This feels like a emotional refuge but… Randy’s not here and…” To me Quiet Riot was with Randy or then it wasn’t Quiet Riot. That band could have been name anything you know but it was just that because Quiet Riot the name Quiet Riot was getting a lot of publicity because of Randy was playing with Ozzy. It was in the interviews and in the reviews of the Ozzy shows all the time. Randy Rhoads ex-Quiet Riot member was mentioned everywhere so Kevin thought “Hey I wanna use the name. This is getting a lot of publicity” So in that first date I did about five songs. “Metal Health” and “I Don?t Wanna Let You Go” were already recorded already before I went in.
Who played bass on those two tracks?
Chuck Wright because he was in the band. And then he got kicked out and in fact one of my friend Tony Cavazo was going to be in the band and then on that same day they recorded “Cum On Feel The Noise” with Tony because i had never heard that song before. I wasn’t in the band. I was just doing some that I had played with them before. “Cum On Feel the Noise” was a song I had never heard in my life. In fact they later on when I played that song live I was thinking “Never heard the song. I’m just going to play what I think that song should be like?” and that?’ what I played. Then months later somebody played me a record of Slade and I was like “That’s how it goes” “laughs” I just played what I thought it might be.
One last question about Quiet Riot? Did you ever imagine that METAL HEALTH would be so huge success?
No. Are you kidding me (laughs).
Our time is up now. Thank you for the interview!
Special thanx to Tuska Festival organizers and Spinefarm to get his this interview done!!!